Silly question about haynets and tacking up

[SaddlePsych'D]

Rest assured I won't be making any changes to share horse's routine and I am under supervision from more experienced horse folk, but I did just want to find out a bit about how different people do things. One thing I am finding a bit tricky is putting on the bridle when there's a hay net - horse is hungry and very enthusiastically tugging at the hay, so I'm struggling to get both parts of the noseband done up under the chin, as he's constantly moving. Throatlash is fine, getting the bit in is fine (I'm swift enough to get that done mid-chomp!), it's just these noseband straps I seem to be getting in a pickle with!

It's mostly for my curiosity about how others approach things like this, I got it done the other day so hopefully cracked it but I think there's some good learning to be had here. Could I be more assertive in asking him to pause his chomping or is that just setting up an argument I won't win/results in me being bitten? Do I just need to keep practicing as is and get quicker?

 

[Goldenstar]

I either wallop them for being rude or remove the haynet .

 

[AmyMay]

Just remove the Haynet?

 

[milliepops]

you can be more assertive. or yes, remove the net.

I tack up in the stable, boots on first, saddle next and bridle last. I'm happy for them to be eating their hay until I want to put the bridle on -at that point I put reins over the neck and move the horse so they are facing away from the net and that's where they stay until we leave the stable to get going. if they tried to pull back to the hay I'd correct that.

 

[ycbm]

I either wallop them for being rude or remove the haynet .

My kind of girl ?

 

[paddy555]

I don't let mine near the haynet when bridling or with a bridle on. There is a risk of the bit/hackamore side getting caught in the haynet. I also wouldn't put up with being pushed around, bitten or anything else. If they have to be tied up after bridling I put a headcollar on and tie the reins back to the saddle. If they have to be tied up whilst bridling I fasten the headcollar around their neck still tied up.

 

[Roxylola]

Its rude, but if you're not looking to change how you do things, just do the noseband up when you come out of the stable, it's not the end of the world

 

[BSL2]

Mine may have a hay net, but I ask him to take a step back whilst I put his bridle on. If im not ready to move away immediately, he is allowed to nibble with his bridle on. If I don't want him to eat, I remove the net.

 

[mini-eventer]

If mine is loose with a haynet. I put pressure on his chest and ask him to step back away from his net to enable me to put his bridle on. If he does not step back I would be a bit tougher. They should always respect your space and it is good to practice asking to step back.

Also try when you go into the stable ask them to step back away from the door to let you in. Just makes everything nicer if your not getting squashed

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

A theme appears to be emerging! I suspected this might be the case. Will take this on board and perhaps to start with will work on asking him to step back from the net more assertively or waiting until we're out of the stable to do it.

 

[stormox]

Leave the noseband undone until you have him out of the stable and ready to mount up.
Or remove the net before you put the bridle on.

 

[mini_b]

You sound like a really considerate sharer! It might sound like a silly question to you but I’d rather someone who didn’t know, asked.

 

[doodle]

Robin is rude! He comes into stable to be groomed and tacked up. Hay at the front beside the door. He is of course starving and so has to eat as much as he can as quick as he can. He stops eating briefly so I can get reins, breastplate and neck strap over head. He then pauses while I put bit in before carrying on chomping. I do up throat lash but leave noseband undone. I put in saddle and do girth. When ready to go I move him a step to the side when he knows he must stop eating. I do up noseband at the door, put my gloves on and off we go. If he is feeling generous once girth is done he will do the step over himself and wait to go. Sometimes he tries to snatch another mouthful but this is not allowed and he is corrected.

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

You sound like a really considerate sharer! It might sound like a silly question to you but I’d rather someone who didn’t know, asked.

Thank you I like to think what I lack in experience, I make up in willingness to learn and a desire to make myself useful at the yard!

 

[Pinkvboots]

One of my Arabs is incredibly greedy but he knows when the tack comes out and the bridle is put in his face he has the decency to stand, he will even put his bit in his mouth I never have to ask him to open his mouth ever, I think it's a learned habit and trust I am happy for them to eat but they have to be aware I am there, I do notice they pull very gently on the hay net when I am around and I think that is a learnt respect.

 

[Pinkvboots]

I use wait as a word for my dog and my horses, I think people really underestimate voice aids on the ground and ridden I use my voice a lot and it works

 

[BeckyFlowers]

I give mine a haynet when grooming and tacking up and the last thing I do is put the bridle on. I put the reins over his head, take the headcollar off and move him away from the haynet to put the bridle on. I'm lucky as he wouldn't dream of doing anything like bogging off with no headcollar or bridle on.

 

[scruffyponies]

I have never understood the need to undo the nose band at all. For myself I leave it fastened and slip if over his nose before putting the bit in his mouth. Much easier.

 

[milliepops]

Depends entirely on the style of noseband! ?

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

I'm not sure what kind of noseband it is - I think it's a Comfitech bridle but not sure if the noseband has a specific name. Not sure if doing the straps up first before putting on would work.

 

[stormox]

I'm not sure what kind of noseband it is - I think it's a Comfitech bridle but not sure if the noseband has a specific name. Not sure if doing the straps up first before putting on would work.

You would just not undo before taking it off, not do them up before you put it on. But it would need to be a cavesson type noseband, not a grackle or flash type.

 

[sport horse]

Why is he eating hay when he is about to be ridden?

 

[milliepops]

I feel like doing up the noseband prior to putting the bridle on is skirting round the issue. There will be other times that the horse needs to leave the haynet when asked.

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

You would just not undo before taking it off, not do them up before you put it on. But it would need to be a cavesson type noseband, not a grackle or flash type.

It's this so sort of like a grackle (I think?!)

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

Why is he eating hay when he is about to be ridden?

My personal answer to that is because it's the routine I have been shown by his owner. Is there a reason he wouldn't/shouldn't be eating before riding?

 

[doodle]

Why is he eating hay when he is about to be ridden?

Because he lives out without hay. Because he comes in hungry. Because it means he settles in the stable if in alone. Because it stops acid splashing and causing ulcers.

 

[milliepops]

I encourage mine to eat some hay before exercise ? as above, to reduce the likelihood of ulcers.

 

[BeckyFlowers]

Why is he eating hay when he is about to be ridden?

What a strange question!

 

[Bernster]

you can be more assertive. or yes, remove the net.

I tack up in the stable, boots on first, saddle next and bridle last. I'm happy for them to be eating their hay until I want to put the bridle on -at that point I put reins over the neck and move the horse so they are facing away from the net and that's where they stay until we leave the stable to get going. if they tried to pull back to the hay I'd correct that.

This for me too. Mine is not good with a Haynet, too rough. In his stable he now has a bucket thing and when travelling, I tend not to have a hay net outside the lorry.

 

[doodle]

What a strange question!

I think just very out dated. Horses were not allowed to eat before exercise but things have moved on since.