GTs
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I really want one............
Silver Labs...........
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Tia
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Oh my god.....don't let Milor hear you say that, LOL!!
Only joking Milor
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They are quite nice I have to admit:
Only joking Milor
They are quite nice I have to admit:
Acolyte
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I assume a lab x Wiemaraner? Had to check the Kennel Club website for the spelling of that, hope I got it right! Would prefer a pure bred of either breed personally, sorry!
Tia
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No they are purebred Labradors....just misclassified - they are registered as chocolate Labs.
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/labradorakcsilver.htm
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/labradorakcsilver.htm
Jemayni
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My friend has a mosaic labrador - they are really bizaar.
This is a pic I found of one when I googled mosaic labrador.
This is a pic I found of one when I googled mosaic labrador.
GTs
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I would only get a pure-bred lab - - - -
mrgoop
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they are gorgeous, that is something really different.
Like it a lot.
Yellows are still a winner with me. Had a black as a kid and he was a real dude, very naughty though
Like it a lot.
Yellows are still a winner with me. Had a black as a kid and he was a real dude, very naughty though
prose
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Very striking, though I still like black Labs the most; the yellows are a bit too homogeneous for my taste.
k9h
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I would imagine it is a cross of the yellow & chocolate colour genes mixing. Though under KC rules you can only have Yellow, Black & Chocolate.
GTs
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They do look nice - I have a golden retriever - he is lovely but very vanilla.
truffles
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My friend has a mosaic labrador - they are really bizaar.
This is a pic I found of one when I googled mosaic labrador.
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Love it
My friend has a mosaic labrador - they are really bizaar.
This is a pic I found of one when I googled mosaic labrador.
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Love it
milor
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silvers are really dilute chocolates - ( although some have been crossed with Weims especially in America ) - the pigmentation tends to be very poor i.e pink ! but otherwise they don't appear to have any more health issues than Chocolate Labs do - personally like my dogs to fit the breed standard and this colour would be a big no no in the show ring !
GTs
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This will just be a pet, just want a healthy nice dog.
Haflinger
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Neh, no fancy colours - get a black lab, they are the best
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Bananaman
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We have a pedigree 'red' lab. He's a real 'foxy' red colour, much deeper than here when he was a little'un.
milor
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Red Labs are quite rare but are a recognised colour - they used to be much more popular - don't know why this colour fell out of favour as it is so attractive .
ru-fi-do
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Mosiac lab - Love it! Looks really strange in a cute way! I didn't know you could get silver labs very nice too!
Oneofthepack
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They had a red lab on the Many Tears animal rescue site not long ago and she was gorgeous. Maybe people should snap up the silver ones now as they could become the next big thing. I think they're beautiful.
GinaB
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Black labs all the way!
You never see red labs anymore and I really like them!
You never see red labs anymore and I really like them!
k9h
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Red is not a recognised colour. It is a YELLOW lab.
Though I do like them and plan on getting one!
Though I do like them and plan on getting one!
jj4y
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Fox reds are very popular at the moment in working bred labs. I don't recall ever seeing a yellow show bred lab as deep as fox red before, but I'm sure there must be some out there. I personally prefer deeper yellow labs rather than 'white' labs (but I also believe golden retreivers should be a proper golden colour rather than the extremely pale ones that seem to be the trend at the moment!). I have labs of all 3 colours. I don't really have a preferance for colour, to me temperament and working ability is more important.
Because 'silver' labs are so rare my main concern would be the ethics behind the breeding. Fair enough if a carefully planned litter happens to produce a silver pup, but if a litter is bred purely to produce 'silvers' then i'm afraid that person is only in it for the money. A silver lab does not fall within the breed standard so IMO a potential owner should NOT be charged through the roof for it as many are.
Because 'silver' labs are so rare my main concern would be the ethics behind the breeding. Fair enough if a carefully planned litter happens to produce a silver pup, but if a litter is bred purely to produce 'silvers' then i'm afraid that person is only in it for the money. A silver lab does not fall within the breed standard so IMO a potential owner should NOT be charged through the roof for it as many are.
vizzielover
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The Red Fox Labrador Retriever is actually a Yellow Lab. The 'Silver labradors' are yet again another American fancy, there will be unscrupulous people out there who will be asking extortionate prices for Labradors that do not meet the breed standards which is simply what a silver lab is. I think the dog in the picture is stunning, but it does not meet the breed standard. Yellow(which can range from white to the darkest Red Fox), Chocolate and Black are the only registered colours. There is also no such thing as a Golden Labrador.
Tia
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I really don't know where some of you are getting the idea that the dog pictured is not meeting the breed standard? Chocolate Labradors are perfectly acceptable in the breed standard of Labradors.
If you care to do a bit of research you will find that there has always been "silver" chocolate Labs and chocolate Labradors do now come under KC rules and are recognised within the KC standard for this breed.
If you care to do a bit of research you will find that there has always been "silver" chocolate Labs and chocolate Labradors do now come under KC rules and are recognised within the KC standard for this breed.
GTs
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Just one question - my dog currently, and especially my neighbours seem very finely breed, probably too much so. My dog at age 13, is doing rather well, but my neighbours since age 10 has kind of gone to pieces and is now getting pretty immobile - does color play a part in this? How do you avoid this pitfall?
milor
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yep ...when I said red was a recognised colour I did not mean as a separately registered one - you are quite right - red is just a varient of the Yellow coat colour
KC standard on Lab colour says:
"wholly black,yellow or liver/chocolate. Yellows range from light cream to red fox. small white spot on chest permissible."
The Chocolate colour is very specific and silver is not mentioned as a permissible colour and so is not recognised !.
KC standard on Lab colour says:
"wholly black,yellow or liver/chocolate. Yellows range from light cream to red fox. small white spot on chest permissible."
The Chocolate colour is very specific and silver is not mentioned as a permissible colour and so is not recognised !.
milor
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"How do you avoid this pitfall? "......by only buying from breeders who hip score and use dogs with a low score
not sure what you mean by 'very finely bred' - if you mean line bred then this should cause no problems as long as the breeder knows the health status of the lines used and is ethical about avoiding any hereditary problems.
not sure what you mean by 'very finely bred' - if you mean line bred then this should cause no problems as long as the breeder knows the health status of the lines used and is ethical about avoiding any hereditary problems.
Blizzard
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No they are purebred Labradors....just misclassified - they are registered as chocolate Labs.
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/labradorakcsilver.htm
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lOL just wanted to say, Cujo, on this page on that site, 3 pics, is my dog
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http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/saintbernardphotos2.htm
Also regarding labs. I have a black lab, love blacks and chocolates, also the red version f the yellow, not many about though!
No they are purebred Labradors....just misclassified - they are registered as chocolate Labs.
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/labradorakcsilver.htm
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lOL just wanted to say, Cujo, on this page on that site, 3 pics, is my dog
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/saintbernardphotos2.htm
Also regarding labs. I have a black lab, love blacks and chocolates, also the red version f the yellow, not many about though!
milor
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That may well be the American Kennel club's stance...... our Kennel Club does not recognise Silver labs though !
Tia
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Yes the AKC does recognise (silver coloured) chocolate Labs.
jj4y
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Yes the AKC does recognise (silver coloured) chocolate Labs.
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This is taken from the AKC website...
"The Labrador Retriever coat colors are black, yellow and chocolate. Any other color or a combination of colors is a disqualification. A small white spot on the chest is permissible, but not desirable. White hairs from aging or scarring are not to be misinterpreted as brindling. Black--Blacks are all black. A black with brindle markings or a black with tan markings is a disqualification. Yellow--Yellows may range in color from fox-red to light cream, with variations in shading on the ears, back, and underparts of the dog. Chocolate--Chocolates can vary in shade from light to dark chocolate. Chocolate with brindle or tan markings is a disqualification." http://www.akc.org/breeds/labrador_retriever/
Sorry, but from that silver colouration would NOT be recognised as they cannot be classified as light to dark chocolate. For the AKC to recognise the silver colouration, the breed standard would have to be rewritten and then voted upon to accept the silver colouration. Yes, silver labradors can be registered, but they are classified as chocolate NOT silver.
Yes the AKC does recognise (silver coloured) chocolate Labs.
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This is taken from the AKC website...
"The Labrador Retriever coat colors are black, yellow and chocolate. Any other color or a combination of colors is a disqualification. A small white spot on the chest is permissible, but not desirable. White hairs from aging or scarring are not to be misinterpreted as brindling. Black--Blacks are all black. A black with brindle markings or a black with tan markings is a disqualification. Yellow--Yellows may range in color from fox-red to light cream, with variations in shading on the ears, back, and underparts of the dog. Chocolate--Chocolates can vary in shade from light to dark chocolate. Chocolate with brindle or tan markings is a disqualification." http://www.akc.org/breeds/labrador_retriever/
Sorry, but from that silver colouration would NOT be recognised as they cannot be classified as light to dark chocolate. For the AKC to recognise the silver colouration, the breed standard would have to be rewritten and then voted upon to accept the silver colouration. Yes, silver labradors can be registered, but they are classified as chocolate NOT silver.