Single Breast bars in trailers

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Hey
I just wondered if anyone uses a single breast bar in their trailer, specifically an Ifor Williams 505. I was thinking of trying my horse without the partition in my trailer but wanted your comments/feedback about it.
I wasnt sure if he would be able to turn around in the trailer as hes only 15hh. I would cross tie him but wasnt sure how safe it would be as he is a small horse in a biggish trailer.
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I use a single breaching bar on the back and the normal two singles on the front with the partition in. I swing the back partition across and tie it so he has more room to stand with his back legs. It works fine for us. I've not tried having him with the whole box before as just giving him more room behind has made him travel easier.
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My bars were £38 each plus delivery of a tenner.
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We did it regualarly with my terrible traveler in an old 505.

It worked fine. She did need to be cross tied (not tightly though) otherwise she would turn around. She's a 15.2 cob in a 16.2 box. Tight squeeze to turn around but she managed it! She always traveled standing diagnoally and travelled brilliantly (terrible traveler with a partition!).

I would never travel a horse without a bum bar/rope/chain behind them - I was once lifting the ramp to close it and got it half way up when the horse tried to reverse. Horse terrified itself and I nearly broken my arm! Plus, since my mare sometimes leans on the bum bar so heavily it once bent, I wouldn't trust the clasps that hold the door closed. Imagine it opened whilst driving along :eek:
 
Did you find that she only tried to turn around when she first got in the box or did she still try to turn around in it while it was moving?
Yeah I would def get a single breech bar and a single breast bar if I was going to travel without a partition.
 
Both! She tried it when she first went in (turned round and looked very proud of herself as I took the ramp down again). She is normally traveled loose without a head collar as she totally looses the plot if she feels her heads trapped. But after that she was never put in untied - always crossed tied, although loosely. She still tried to turn around but I played with the length until she couldn't get to that 'point of no return' with her head.

Even when travelling she still bent her head and neck around, just to check she wasn't suddenly untied but eventually gave up and just stood diagonally.

She clearly wants to travel backwards but she's just a little bit too big to do so. If she's been two hands smaller I'd have let her.
 
I have one for my boy. He is usually cross tied and is happy both to load and to travel with the whole trailer.

I think he takes the view of "its mine... all mine"

only down side is that I can't take both my horses places together but at the end of the day as long as he is happy and in one peice ( and travelling) who am i to complain
 
I use one to travel my mare and foal. Mare is 13.1h and the trailer fits OH's 17h TB so they are teeny tiny inside!!!

I don't cross tie mine, that is only beacause my mare panics if her head is restricted. She has never tried to turn around but she is a very experianced traveller.
 
I travel mine in a 510 without a partition. I use a single breast and breech bar and cross tie. Never had a problem. I think it's safer without a partition and he stands diagonally. Seems to prefer without partition...good traveller/loader either way. It's easier to get in and out and you can tack up in trailer without partition. The bars are about £50 each....I would definately recommend breech and breast bars, especially if you load on your own like I do.
 
I travelled my horse in a ifor with no partition. . .he travelled really well. . .would definatly do it again. . My boy is 15.2 and he ended up travelling sideways on but he had to stand up and support himself instead of leaning on the partition.
 
We have recently taken the partition out of our 510 and bought two full bars, it was the best decision we could have made. My horse travels, loads and unloads so much better, it has made going out much easier for everyone.
 
I have a 16.1hh warmblood who started stumbling in his 505 ifore williams trailer. I found it really distressing so nearly sold the trailer, and then someone told me about trying him with a single breast bar (luckily I got a second hand one from a trailer shop) and from the first time I have travelled him in it opened up he has been a different horse, standing still. I
 
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