Size of Stallion To Mare?...........

[mandk]

<font color="blue"> I am thinking of putting my TBx into foal.

She is a coloured and is 15.2hh. She is 8 years old and never been in foal before.

I want a bigger, height &amp; build, horse out of her (fingers crossed) and wondered how bigger stallion I could safely get away with? And how bigger foal I am likely to get (her sire is 15.2hh and dam approx 15hh).

Any advise welcomed,

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[JANANI]

I think you can go up a approx a hand. My mare is 15.2hh and the stallion was 16.3hh and my filly looks like she'll hit 16.3hh (I wanted around 16hh). It depends on how the mare throws out and the stallion throws out (Talking to a few stallion owners they would say He is 16hh but throws out big). If you want a bigger build you may need to go for a heavier build horse such as an RID but you may need to look at your's mares X to see what it is. You would also need to avoid sport horse types unless you aware of their and your mares breeding background.

HTH
Jana

 

[kerilli]

just be aware that first foals are often not huge. i know sometimes they are, but i have bred from 2 maiden mares, one at 16h to a 16.1 stallion (resulting filly - matured at 15.2) and one at 16.3 to a 16.2 stallion (resulting filly - 3 yrs old now, 16h.) But there are dangers with putting a much bigger stallion on a maiden mare, I have been told.

 

[JanetGeorge]

Do you want a coloured foal - that is the 1st consideration as it will limit your choice a bit. You have a 50% chance of coloured if put to a solid colour stallion (not a grey - as even if foal born coloured there would be a 50% chance it would grey out.)

An RID would suit her very well - lots of them are grey, of course - but Avanti Amorous Archie is a very handsome bay RID who is not TOO big (16.3)

I've used my 17 hh BIG RID on 15.2 up TBs safely - I wouldn't want to use him on anything smaller if it was full TB. (But he's grey!)

People sometimes worry that an RID will produce TOO big a foal (or too big a horse eventually) but it doesn't usually cause a problem if the mare is a reasonably well built sort as your mare seems to be. And maiden mares tend to have smaller foals (at least at birth.) Even using a 16.3 RID, I would not expect a foal out of your mare to make much more than a 16.1 Middleweight - as her sire and dam are quite small too.

I have a 15.2 RID mare whose 1st filly by my 17hh RID has matured at 16.2; her 2nd foal - a colt is 16.3 already(at 3) with 10 inches of bone - BUT she was by a 17 hh stallion so her genetic make-up is for size.

 

[mandk]

<font color="blue"> Thanks for your help. She is TBx Cob (quite LW cob) - both her parents were coloured.

How heavy would I need to go...... Shire, Percheron etc?

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[shirleyno2]

I've bred from 16.2 stallions to 13.0 mares with no problems. Has she got enough bone and substance? You prob won't need to go anywhere near as heavy as shire/percheron. Have a good look around and try and visit stallions at stud open days. My "English coloured stallion goes back to Samber [Dutch] and Ballyard Light [Irish].
http://www.brendonpyecombe.co.uk/brendonstud/Squire.asp
Another I have is 17.3 out of a 15.1 mare and 16.2 stallion!!!
God bless mother nature

 

[Springs]

I thinke the shire / Percheron will be a bit too heavy, look for an ID or ID cross,

Do you have an idea of what you want to use the foal for in the future? hunting, eventing, sports horse etc. That should help in your decision.

 

[JanetGeorge]

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<font color="blue"> Thanks for your help. She is TBx Cob (quite LW cob) - both her parents were coloured.

How heavy would I need to go...... Shire, Percheron etc?

Thanks </font>

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EEEK - NO! First they would be MUCH too big for her and both breeds have big heavy shoulders - foaling difficulties almost guaranteed. Second, they are too extreme in type - you MIGHT get something that looks ok or you could get a Fugly horse you won't want to look at!! An RID wouldn't be TOO heavy and much closer in type - so you'd get extra substance, height and bone in the right sort of proportions!

But Springs is right - you need to think what you want to DO with the foal. Is it to keep - or to sell? If to keep, for what purpose/s - showing, dressage, hunting etc. What qualities are most important to you (movement, temperament, etc.)