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I really can't see how the 2 animals can be compared? One is a 12.2hh pony and the other is a 16hh stallion.
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it's only proven for the SHAPS and cannot be registered as purebred.


I wouldnt buy either...,.

but yes, when looking for a pony of that approx height we did come across alot of VERY overpriced ponies which on paper are no more than bog standard crossbred hill ponies.
 
With the pony, parents will pay a lot of money for something that their child will be safe with. Even if it's un-registered etc. However i do see your point money wise pudpud. As far as the stallion is concerned, if it's so good why is it so cheap?
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Um lets clear up something... I HAVE NO INTENTION OF BUYING EITHER-thanks but I am fully aware that a 16h stallion and a 4 year old would not be a suitable pairing. The point is.....where are people getting these prices from????? Are they picking them out of thin air?? £3500 for an unreg pony is a bit OTT and the other horse was only picked as a comparison as it was the next in the list with a 3k price tag!!!!
 
If I was looking for an Appaloosa stallion I certainly wouldn't buy that one as it isn't even registered. Instead I would look for other registered Appaloosa stallions with excellent breeding. I wouldn't be interested in whether it could be ridden or not, but I would expect this to be reflected in the price.

If I was looking for a 12.2hh lead rein pony then I would look at many other lead rein ponies to compare on prices/experience/suitability/winnings and if this was the most suitable lead rein pony for my family's needs, then yes I might consider buying it.

Sorry - they simply are not comparable.
 
Umm, okay I must be having a "moment" here
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I have registered QH's, registered APHA's and registered Appaloosas. The QH's are FAR more valuable than the Paints, which in turn are more valuable than Appaloosas - when I figure out pricing for all of my seller-ons, I couldn't possibly compare my QH's with my Apps, even though all horses in their ridden/experience capacity are very similar - the pricing for each of my breeds are nowhere near comparable.

I suspect the lead rein pony owners have compared against other lead rein ponies with similar experience etc. And I'd imagine the owners of the App stallion have done the same? Like all of us sellers do perhaps?
 
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As far as the stallion is concerned, if it's so good why is it so cheap?
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Some people, despite seeing the prices horses of the same quality etc of their horses just 'don't get' pricing...

Take my Mum for example; She owns a 6 yo 17hh l/w reg coloured stallion, broken, 100% to do, well schooled and a fantastic movement, same home since weaning.....she was thinking of selling and was going to advertise for OIRO £1500....

In my opinion that's WAY too cheap....
 
£500 difference. In different parts of the country. I've no idea what the market is like in either of those counties.

I know that in my area horses sell for significantly less than what I sell my horses for - however I rarely sell to people in my area as I advertise in the States and elsewhere and very often I have sales via word-of-mouth; so my prices aren't anything like the prices of a lot of (on the face of it) comparable horses around. Breeding counts for a lot here.

All of these factors have to be taken into account, however those two ponies you showed could be compared, but definitely not the first two.
 
Penny-I agree far too cheap! One of my old YO was the type of person to pluck prices out of the sky. YO once asked 6k for a 16.2 unbroken 7 year old by nobodyXnobody!!
Couldnt understand why it never sold....
 
I think people just try their luck. I do admit though if a horse is cheap its puts me off. But children's ponies at that price - really - its all so competitive now, in my day we were just grateful to have a pony, we paid £250 for my first pony and he was fantastic - that was 1945 though .......!!!
 
Blimey, that was a hell of a lot of money in 1945!
My first po was £60 and that was 1970! He was a 3yo though! My second po was £120 and a good first po, if you get my drift.
My children, who love the 'Jill' books are forever in giggles about Susan Pyke and her posh 'Hundred Pound Ponies'.
I think that was in the '30s though.
 
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I think people just try their luck. I do admit though if a horse is cheap its puts me off. But children's ponies at that price - really - its all so competitive now, in my day we were just grateful to have a pony, we paid £250 for my first pony and he was fantastic - that was 1945 though .......!!!

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Flippin heck you must have been loaded!! My ponies all cost less than that and the last one I got was in 1987 and she was only £200!!!
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But - if that pony has given a 9 yr old back her confidence, then that is worth it. It doesn't matter that he's not registered - unless you're showing or breeding that doesn't even come into the equation.

The 2nd 12h pony would be too forward going for a novice, and at that height there aren't that many small confident riders around. Most 12.2 s are bought as steady confidence givers - believe me.

I think he may be a little over priced, but not very. It depends how much comes with him as well tack and rug wise. I sold a slight 13.1 pony for 3K last year, and could of sold him 10 times over - he wasn't registered, and hadn't done anything affiliated. Just a thoroughly nice chap who gave my daughter back her confidence after a 14.2 that was a bit of a handful.
 
Price is determined by supply and demand. There is a big demand for sensible confidence-giving ponies who can do some competing as well, and there are not that many really genuine ones about. So the good ones can command quite a decent price.
 
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But - if that pony has given a 9 yr old back her confidence, then that is worth it. It doesn't matter that he's not registered - unless you're showing or breeding that doesn't even come into the equation.

The 2nd 12h pony would be too forward going for a novice, and at that height there aren't that many small confident riders around. Most 12.2 s are bought as steady confidence givers - believe me.

Finding a pony that is suitable as a fiirsyt ridden/confidence giver is so hard, lead reins are two a penny, but making that transition without a tether - yikes. You also have to consider the 'extras'. You know that by the time you have got tack, rugs, vacinations, frezemarks, pink sparkly tail guard, disney sadle cloth etc you can easily part with over a grand (even if you dont intend too!).

I personaly wouldnt be spending 3.5k on a pony, but I would have thought that for something that is sensible and able to take a child to her first show, PC rallies, hunting etc you would be looking at at least 2.5K. Have you tried looking on PCUK website or putting an add in your local PC newsletter? At least with a PC pony there are normaly dozens of folk who will give you a reference (good or bad!)
 
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