So come on then, if this is a buyer's market where are the buyers??

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Buyer's market my a*** :( Where are they all?? It seems that people who have difficult or quirky horses are able to sell (and above the price from what their owners have relayed ack to me) but my green horse at a low price (not low enough to make people wary) who only requires work and consistency can't sell for toffee!!

From my experience it isn't even a bloody dealers market!!

Has anyone actually advertised something, had someone other than timewasters come to view and sold?? It seems like a distant dream to me. I don't think I have fully understood how someone could be pushed to almost giving away a horse until now.

Selling sucks :( Admin I am not advertising, I am ranting - show me where the details, ad link and pricing are in this thread and I'll take it down - I am just irritated and venting.

Pringles for dealing with fine and dandy ranty pants :D
 
niagaraduval said:
Nothing is selling ATM Chin up :(
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It is so frustrating; if time and money wasn't an object I wouldn't be half as annoyed but I just cannot afford to keep her and I don't have time anymore - I start my LPC next month so I will ahve less time than I did before. It really is disheartening and the thought of having her through winter just fills me with dread...I think I will be bankrupt by that point :(

Have a pringle for listening though :)
 
Last year i was looking for a horse & found only about two that were suitable
... This year i put up an advert looking for one & get over thirty replies... & found my dream horse at a dream price! But i do feel so sorry for the twenty-nine others i had to let down :S One lady i had to let down had reduced her youngster from £200 down to £75 down to £55 & still had no interest!
It took my friend over 3 months to sell her absolutely amazing pc gelding this year & sold him for half the asking price. The horse industry is in a difficult time! :cool:
 
I have bought a horse and sold a pony within the last fortnight. There does seem to be an awful lot for sale right now so maybe there just aren't enough buyers.

Out of interest, what do you class as a timewaster?
 
Tjat is why it is a buyers market, the buyers have the pick of what they want, and at the price they are willing to pay, rather than the price the seller wants. Hope you have some luck with selling soon.
 
pedilia said:
I have bought a horse and sold a pony within the last fortnight. There does seem to be an awful lot for sale right now so maybe there just aren't enough buyers.

Out of interest, what do you class as a timewaster?
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Someone who calls me, arranges an appointment after speaking to them at length and any of the following happens:-

a) They just don't turn up...ever. And don't call to say why they aren't turning up and don't return my calls to find out where they are (in traffic or lost etc)

b) They turn up, ride my pony and then tell me they just wanted to come up and ride and actually were sorry for misleading me but weren't in a position to buy a horse

c) They try my horse 3 times in different settings, book a vetting and then say they've decided they can't go ahead as their family who is financing the purchase said from the start they would only buy them a, "plod" and nothing more forward than that

d) They turn up after being sent numerous pictures, videos and emails as to how she is to ride etc, see her brough out, tacked up etc and as soon as I get on and she steps forward into walk say, "No no no she isn't the one" without seeing a full walk, trot, canter etc.

Do I need to go on??? These are some of the reasons I am frustrated. Oh and someone turning up and asking if I would knock £600 off the price if I kept her 3 rugs....
 
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But as a buyer I find that anything I fancy is too far away! But then I have only been seriously looking for 24 hours! Why is it that when you are window shopping there are loads & as soon as you start to look seriously they all move up North & to the West Country?
 
pedilia said:
Someone actually said they just wanted to ride!!!! That is appalling, no wonder your p****d off!
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Yep. You would not believe what I ahve to deal with. The mothers with very different perceptions of their kids riding ability is the other - I tell them she is not for a novice (unless very capable and is confident) or complete beginner and I am assured that they aren't any of these and their instructor can attest to this etc...and what do you think they are when they turn up??

:D My nerves actually cannot take any more.
 
hairycob said:
But as a buyer I find that anything I fancy is too far away! But then I have only been seriously looking for 24 hours! Why is it that when you are window shopping there are loads & as soon as you start to look seriously they all move up North & to the West Country?
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I don't know. All the wanted ads that could be suitable for her appear to all be up north and no where near me in the South!
 
My sister is looking for an unbroken 3yr old gelding with good eventing bloodlines and prospects but cannot find any at all. She's been looking for about 3months and has only looked at one 3yr old and a 2yr old.
There are so many mares around but no geldings, I really don't think there is any kind of market at the moment :(
 
I just sold a 5 year old pony, green due to his age but fab attitude and safe as houses.
Took me about 2 months to sell him with 4 viewings and id say 10 calls.
I was 100% honest on the advert and phone but still got compltete numpties ring and even come out. Its a bloody nightmare and was V relieved when he passed his vetting and was sold to a fab home. Sold him for £2400 and he was up for £2700 so think I did ok. Im 99% sure one of the viewers were just after a free ride for their kid.
 
hannah87 said:
I just sold a 5 year old pony, green due to his age but fab attitude and safe as houses.
Took me about 2 months to sell him with 4 viewings and id say 10 calls.
I was 100% honest on the advert and phone but still got compltete numpties ring and even come out. Its a bloody nightmare and was V relieved when he passed his vetting and was sold to a fab home. Sold him for £2400 and he was up for £2700 so think I did ok. Im 99% sure one of the viewers were just after a free ride for their kid.
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She sounds like him only a year older...had so many calls and viewings and all I seem to attract are the numpties, even after speaking to them on the phone for christ knows how long trying to work them out. It is gutting, the only one who seemed genuine and wanted her can't have her due to her circumstances changing after she said she wanted her (family illness). It is a nightmare, I hate selling and I have an unbacked/unbroken 3 year old to sort out after she has gone because I can't afford to advertise them both at the same time etc, so I am going to have to go through the same bloody problems all over again! I think the thought of that is making me feel more down about the whole thing - even if she does go within thenext month or so, who is going to want to buy a horse for the winter, let alone one that isn't backed or broken and I haven't got time or money to do that myself either.
 
Got to agree with YorksG that a 'buyer's market' means that there are far more horses for sale than there are buyers for them, meaning that buyers can afford to be much more choosy.

If you go onto any of the horse sale websites regularly you will see how many new ads are put on everyday, so even nice horses and ponies have to be extremely well-marketed to catch the buyer's eye. I know quite a few genuine horses and ponies which just haven't sold recently, despite being substantially reduced in price.
 
I'm on he opposite side of your situation. I have been looking for a big, safe old thing my partner can learn to ride on. Seems like everyone is selling the stunners and keeping the plods!
 
I am going to say that I disagree. We are looking to buy a horse with no major problems to bring on, anything from 15hh - 16.3hh that is sane, sensible and good looking. I can't find anything that is not 6K+ so quite how that can be a buyers market... If I wanted a TB who had raced I'd be fine but there is just nothing else that is under 11yo and a reasonable price!

I am equally frustrated but for the opposite reason!
 
measles said:
I am going to say that I disagree. We are looking to buy a horse with no major problems to bring on, anything from 15hh - 16.3hh that is sane, sensible and good looking. I can't find anything that is not 6K+ so quite how that can be a buyers market... If I wanted a TB who had raced I'd be fine but there is just nothing else that is under 11yo and a reasonable price!

I am equally frustrated but for the opposite reason!
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Have a pringle and we can frustrated together!

There seems to be so many horses in the market and not enough people who want to buy; those who are buying have the pick. It is just getting people to part with their money and taking the leap. I think a few more people need a good push into the leap personally :D
 
AbandLuc -I thought that too -loads of mares for sale and not many geldings! odd.

Have to say I bought one about 3 weeks ago having been browsing for a few months but not actually looking as such, as in I could buy if I saw something I wanted for a price I thought was affordable and reasonable. I saw an ad i had actually seen a good while before but obviously they'd not sold him, I went ti see him, liked what i saw, had a brief vetting done and brought him home the weekend after!

However, i was only looking for a youngster 2-3 yo. I ended up buying a 15mth old but am looking forward to having fun bringing him on.

I think certainly there are a fair few horses out there for sale so buyers can be picky. I definitely don't agree with real timewasters though. I wouldn't dare not turn up or be that damn rude to someone else!
 
I have been looking recently though i do have a very limited budget (1000) but have found not that much worth looking at within an hour radius of where i live. a lot of people with youngsters seem to just be holding on their prices (which they are definitly not worth after looking over all the websites and seeing different price ranges) I am guessing towards the end of this month there will be a massive rush of trying to sell off horses!
But I've found my ideal one now for £200 just down the road :D and he wans't even advertised lol.
I do feel bad for all the people selling right now!
 
I also suspect that people who do not HAVE to sell are hanging onto their horses for now, hoping that the market will improve. So that might mean some of the better ones are still being held onto until the market improves.
 
I've been looking for 6 months now... found three I like now (all over the country) One was withdrawn from sale (only saw about 10 I would have looked at tbh). The second failed the vet and the third is being vetted tomorrow... Wish me luck

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I feel your pain! I've been trying to sell my youngester for over 6 months and not even one viewing! I brought him last year to sell on this spring, broken him, gelded, vaccinated and paid to keep him for the year and can't even sell him for what I paid for him last year! It wouldn't really matter but I am losing my grazing so don't have the space for him over the winter.

I've never loaned a horse about before but have now gone down this route and hopefully have now found someone with a view to buy but from the people I've spoken to I'll be very lucky to get someone to look after him for the winter! If he doesn't go or comes back he'll have to go into livery costing gods knows what else more!

Not long ago I remember selling a pony within 24hrs - think those days are long gone!:confused:
 
I am a buyer, but after 2 failed vettings and one doped horse I am beginning to think I am never going to find something !!

I have changed my search criteria – I was looking for what everyone is looking for – the safe and sensible allrounder, 16hh+, MW, 6-9 yo, been there done it all type for RC activities that is also suitable for my other half to ride (he has been learning in a riding school for a year).

I am now excluded my other half’s needs and being selfish! and am now also looking at youngsters that are green and need a bit of mileage / conditioning but still have a sane head on them. I have broadened my search area also but I find it extremely hard to trust the ads – take the one today – I emailed the advertiser this morning for what area they were in and whether horse was still available and they have replied tonight, but when I looked at the ad again tonight to get the phone number to call them to have a chat it is now a completely different horse in the picture; this morning it was a bay with no white markings and now the picture on the ad is a bay with a big white blaze but still exactly the same written ad – hence another one I am not going to take any further!!!!

From a buyers point of view it might be stating the obvious but good, clear pictures in the ad makes a difference in catching our eye. I get frustrated trawling through ads with appalling pictures and then end up requesting pictures of the horse naked side view, front and rear view and pref also a video. If a seller cannot do this then I don’t go to see the horse, I have spent a fortune on petrol, vettings, phone calls etc so I have had to take a tougher approach with what I am prepared to go and view. There seems to be loads of Thoroughbreds around but as I am looking for something that has good conformation with a little bit of “chunk” to it, it seems that there is not much choice – I fear I could do another thread on indiscriminate breeding flooding the market with poorly put together horses……

Sorry for the essay and to have hijacked your thread with a rant from a buyers point of view, but thought I would offer a view from the other side of the coin so to speak. :)
 
*waves* ME!!! I need a horse after having my current one doped for the vetting (has kissing spine, navicular and a lot more problems!!). Sellers are just as bad as buyers though, Ive been to veiw a horse, liked it, rang up to arrange a second veiwing with instructor to tell me the horse was actually sold subject to vetting when I went to see it the first time!! Now if thats not timewasting (over a 2 hr journey) then I dont know what is - they could have just warned me first!
 
im a genuine buyer and ive just had my first viewing and first timewaster (seller!)!

i was promised to see the horse ridden.... nope.

i want to know where the bargains are as tbh some people are just completely deluded.... in this market - buyers have the cash that the sellers want yet they hold out for more which they aint gona get in this economy.....

*not a diss at all sellers*...... just my view as a buyer :)
 
This may seem harsh, but to me the answer is in the question.

I know a horse is an individual and all horses have their own limitations, but I think most buyers don't understand their duty is to prepare their horse for sale so it has as few as quirks/disadvantages as possible. So your horse isn't selling, what are you doing to make it a better horse to sell???

Are you taking it to shows, loading and travelling it, walking around the field with umberellas, cycling round the field, refamilirising it to the clippers. Anything to make it a more seasoned horse. Yes it take effort, but every day it doesn't sell is an opportunity to make it into a better horse.

Just putting together some sort of an ad sticking in on a website and waiting for the world to come to you isn't enough. If an ad isn't working change it!! Are the pictures good enough, have you got it in the best spots, etc, etc.

Ok, so I will get off my soapbox now and sorry if I have offended!
 
Im having the same problem, have one of ours up for sale at a very reasonable price, she is still green as only 4 and was turned away after backing.
Yet Ive only had a few people come view her, and when they have they offer silly money, which I guess why its a buyers market, but i refuse to pretty much give away my horse
 
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