So horse bent the galvanised steel gate...

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trefnantblackknight

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Tied him up

2 minutes later he pulls back breaks the rope

Tied him up again with a new rope and a back up rope tied slightly looser

2 minutes later he pulls back breaks first rope then pulls on the second rope, I put my hand on his bum and he moves forward - he is getting very good with moving away from very slight pressure!

Took a look at the gate to untie the rope and he had bent the hole top bar....

What can I tie him to now that he can't break or bend .... ugh naughty horse



need some suggestions on solid objects I can tie him to ???
 
I would never tie a horse directly to a gate, have seen some horrific injuries caused when the gate has come off the hinges.
 
Did you not tie him to string?
The while point is that it does break! A heavy gate could well cause serious injury or death.
You need to address his tying up issues rather than tie him to heavier/immovable objects.
 
He won't tie up to string! He pulls back and falls over himself causing himself an injury he is never left un supervised




I'm trying to teach him not to pull back!!!!
 
quirky said:
Did you not tie him to string?
The while point is that it does break! A heavy gate could well cause serious injury or death.
You need to address his tying up issues rather than tie him to heavier/immovable objects.
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Would love you're suggestions on how to address his tying up issues?????
 
I would have him tied to string (wearing a leather head collar - and a cheap one) then have some one placed at his backside with a nylon yard brush aimed at his backside for when he pulled back........
 
dressedkez said:
I would have him tied to string (wearing a leather head collar - and a cheap one) then have some one placed at his backside with a nylon yard brush aimed at his backside for when he pulled back........
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He pulls back too quick...he would end up crushing the person behind by falling on them or breaking the broom he wears a leather headcollar atm and old lead ropes as he killed all the new ones when I used string because he breaks them usually before the string...and when it broke he would fall on his bum!
 
If you're standing with him, use a lunge line through a ring tied to something solid. You can let out some line if he starts to go backwards, then tighten it back up once he stops and you ask him to go back forwards.

Or get a Blocker tie ring and use that.

Please don't tie any horse to a gate though. If the post's solid and sunk deep, put a ring on there and use that.
 
meandmyself said:
If you're standing with him, use a lunge line through a ring tied to something solid. You can let out some line if he starts to go backwards, then tighten it back up once he stops and you ask him to go back forwards.

Or get a Blocker tie ring and use that.

Please don't tie any horse to a gate though. If the post's solid and sunk deep, put a ring on there and use that.
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That's a good idea will try that we have one solid post that is concreted in??
 
meandmyself said:
If you're standing with him, use a lunge line through a ring tied to something solid. You can let out some line if he starts to go backwards, then tighten it back up once he stops and you ask him to go back forwards.

Or get a Blocker tie ring and use that.

Please don't tie any horse to a gate though. If the post's solid and sunk deep, put a ring on there and use that.
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The blocker tie ring sounds good will order one :)
 
We had a shitbag that learnt snapping the twine was great and would run for the hills...

Eventually we wrapped a leadrope round a pole just once so easily could be released and had someone holding the other end. Every time he pulled pressure was applied and when he stopped so did the pressure. He had this done 3 times before he completely stopped.
 
I didn't make any suggestions because my horses have always tied up in a mannerly fashion :)
I have seen what meandmyself has suggested being done. They used a telegraph pole. It wasn't pretty, the horse got very agitated and angry but it did work.
Not sure I'd want to do it to one of mine as it looked as if it could have got injured at any moment :(
 
quirky said:
I didn't make any suggestions because my horses have always tied up in a mannerly fashion :)
I have seen what meandmyself has suggested being done. They used a telegraph pole. It wasn't pretty, the horse got very agitated and angry but it did work.
Not sure I'd want to do it to one of mine as it looked as if it could have got injured at any moment :(
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Meandmyself didn't suggest tying the horse firmly to a solid object. They suggested a tried and tested method often used by Intelligent Horsemanship people and many others.
 
quirky said:
I didn't make any suggestions because my horses have always tied up in a mannerly fashion :)
I have seen what meandmyself has suggested being done. They used a telegraph pole. It wasn't pretty, the horse got very agitated and angry but it did work.
Not sure I'd want to do it to one of mine as it looked as if it could have got injured at any moment :(
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Aww how lucky for you having perfect horses! do you have to charge there batteries every four hours or are they solar powered??
 
trefnantblackknight said:
He pulls back too quick...he would end up crushing the person behind by falling on them or breaking the broom he wears a leather headcollar atm and old lead ropes as he killed all the new ones when I used string because he breaks them usually before the string...and when it broke he would fall on his bum!
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Well for goodness sake get a bit quicker then he is - or you have a horse who is clearly taking the P ......it may be too late, and I fear you have made a rod for your own back.
 
trefnantblackknight said:
The blocker tie ring sounds good will order one :)
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They're really good. I've seen them settle hard to tie horses down, because there's a bit of give.

quirky said:
I didn't make any suggestions because my horses have always tied up in a mannerly fashion :)
I have seen what meandmyself has suggested being done. They used a telegraph pole. It wasn't pretty, the horse got very agitated and angry but it did work.
Not sure I'd want to do it to one of mine as it looked as if it could have got injured at any moment :(
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Ah, I'm not suggesting that the horse be tied to something that won't release or give. Just that the post is probably safer than tying to the gate if it's solid and sunk deep. I'd still recommend using a safety link of some kind.
 
dressedkez said:
Well for goodness sake get a bit quicker then he is - or you have a horse who is clearly taking the P ......it may be too late, and I fear you have made a rod for your own back.
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Oh he knows what he is doing.... He learnt straight away that when he pulls back he gets loose he knows when he is tied or when he is being held by someone like the idea of using a lunge through a ring tie but slightly worried he will know what I'm up too.
 
meandmyself said:
They're really good. I've seen them settle hard to tie horses down, because there's a bit of give=QUOTE]

bought one :) hopefully it will do the trick will try the lunge line bit for a while - thing is he knows when he is being held and when he is actually tied.....too clever for his own good
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trefnantblackknight said:
Oh he knows what he is doing.... He learnt straight away that when he pulls back he gets loose he knows when he is tied or when he is being held by someone like the idea of using a lunge through a ring tie but slightly worried he will know what I'm up too.
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Don't paint a picture before it's happened ! Go at it with an assertive, calm and cool being about yourself...
 
This horse has learnt to pull back - and a safety link will just make it easier for him....not that I am suggesting gates, poles . JCB's et al - he needs to learn it is not acceptable to pull back, and he gets a fright if he does - that is why we use electric fencing (when we have to) to keep them in fields....200V's up his backside in this situation will be a risk for all - but a whack on his backside expertly adminstered might not be a bad idea - which is why I suggested a prickly yard broom - but you do have to be quick - and I always thought that one slight advantage that we have over our equine friends is that - our brain power is slightly more evolved.......Discuss!!
 
No need to be rude.
I'm thinking you and your horse maybe deserve each other.

I didn't offer a solution because I personally haven't had to deal with it. I know what I don't know ;)

Over and out :D
 
Tinypony - I misread me's post. I think that is possibly what the person I watched should have done. What they did do was put the lunge line behind the hocks and back through the tie ring and hung on, hence my horror :eek:
I fully understand how the 'correct' method would work :)
 
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