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Getting so fed up at the moment, weather is not helping! I look after work horses plus my 2 as my full time job. I have mine, another tb, an ID and a fjord too work and everything else is either a pony or retired. Went to bring in today and mine and the id came in fine. Went to catch other tb and he completely decked me over and wouldn't let me near him. I'm hurt and currently led out on sofa. He has no manners and I'm fed up with him, he needs work but due to numerous reasons he hasn't been in consistent work for 6months. He is so boulshy and rude and I'm fed up with him hurting me! I need to get him going as I'm sure he is just being a pratt as he is bored but after all the cuts and bruises I'm a little scared I guess, he also bites and kicks and f#### off when you lead him, having help int really an option, neither is getting rid. Any motivation tips?? All others are just divs in bad weather but don't bother me like he does!!
 
Ah so sorry to hear that:( Hope you aren't too hurt. I would really consider teaching that horse some manners by doing some basic groundwork exercises with him. They do work as ong as you are consistent with them. They are like children, you let them take an inch and they will try for a mile. It worked for me and my girl who would be bargy ad disrespectful. She still needs reminding every now and again but ten times better than before. If he's difficult to catch at times you could also try a join up with your horse. Hope you feel better soon.
 
Firstly have a nice long hot bath to soothe the aches and pains! Secondly I would suggest looking for a RI to come and help you with him. Why cant he be ridden? If you can only do in ground work, I would be asking the RI to help me with long reining, lunging and inhand walking. It sounds as though he is taking the pee! You need to put him back in line. Good luck
 
He can be ridden but he came with no weight on him last year so I gave him time to chunk out a bit and just haven't restarted him yet.. I think i will split them up and just grow a pair and get on with it!
 
others prob wont agree but if you really HAVE to lead/handle him, why not use a chifney or something simular for your pwn safety. Sounds like he is dangerous, not worth the risk. Hope you feel better about it after a nice hot bath!
 
Just an awkward situation as if he is sent away I will have hardly anything to do, and prob wouldn't have a job, I made a promise to do something with him as he is the sweetest horse when he's chilled! I may call in a more expierienced helper and just ride him, he surely will settle more with work and I may just need to man up! It will be a dobbin when the sun comes out and I'll be laughing about this post :s
 
Ohh didn't realise he wasn't yours. In that case I wouldn't be handling him. It's not worth getting hurt and losing confidence over someone elses Horse.
 
Beans2000 said:
Just an awkward situation as if he is sent away I will have hardly anything to do, and prob wouldn't have a job, I made a promise to do something with him as he is the sweetest horse when he's chilled! I may call in a more expierienced helper and just ride him, he surely will settle more with work and I may just need to man up! It will be a dobbin when the sun comes out and I'll be laughing about this post :s
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Is he any better if brought in first?
 
No, he is best when led in with another as doesn't like to leave friends but I have the issue of when its hammering down or windy I can't lead 2 in together
 
My own is a bit of a burger (BH I mean) and sounds similar. A bit of a thug and definitely worse if he is pished off because it's windy/rainy. If you can bear it I'd try and get some regular work into him. Like you say, he'll probably calm right down then. Mine definitely does. Also second using his bridle to lead him if you aren't already/think it is viable.

Mine doesn't scare but he drives me mad with his ridiculous behaviour so you have my sympathy! :)
 
Hadn't seen this post when I replied to your other post. Sorry, may have seemed a bit flippiant.
I know how demoralising a horse that is difficult to catch and bring in, is.
The weather is so rubbish just now, can you leave him until the sun comes out and then start him back in work ? With driving rain and wind everything seems so much more of a trial.
I just made it a priority of the week to catch one uncatchable and bring back into work. The thought of it was actually worse than doing it, probably because I felt motivated to do it at this time.
 
Reward system for the good combined with being one bored handler when he is getting aggressive or being a handful. Maybe even use a lunge line, a tight held rope and jabbing on the headcollar, bridle or chifney won't solve anything in the long run.

Give him the line when he wants to react, so you are in a safe place and you can act totally bored until he stands and realises he is not getting away with it. He needs to learn you're at the top of the pecking order and show some respect/submission.

If it takes 1 hour to get in from the field, so be it! Don't persist walking unless he is going to do it calmly. But remember to be calm in yourself, along with a firm but kind approach.

Give some mind games for him to think about and try to read the body language to catch anything out in advance, and then reward. Good luck and believe in yourself. Set your mind on a goal and just let him know he is making it unsafe for you. Sometimes some horses just HAVE to express additional energy with leading and turning out/handling… But the second they learn personal space, it doesn’t become such an issue.
 
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