Soaked Oats & Tiger Oats

[S_N]

Sorry to harp on about this diet folks, but I (& another forum member, she put me onto them) was/were wondering about using Tiger Oats to soak? As the oats need draining for a a good hour or more before feeding, would the extra stuff in the Tigre oats just be leached out? All thoughts welcome! THANK YOU!!

P.S. These are Tiger Oats http://s104768845.websitehome.co.uk/GWFeeds/prod-tigeroats/index.htm

 

[meandmyself]

I would think that you'd end up loosing the extra stuff and it wouldn't really be worth it. Just JMO though!

 

[druid]

Drianed for an hour?

Gave that up in week one - Drained and fed as soon as they stop dripping (maybe 10mins max.) You'll just leech anything extra in tiger oats into the water you chuck.

 

[S_N]

lol - must say I was getting bored of that idea! What kind of oats do you use? Whole? Naked? Tiger? or Other?

 

[severnmiles]

I use whole oats...is this what you're feeding now SN? Seabiscuit is going to bankrupt feed companies!! hehe!

 

[PapaFrita]

I use whole oats... only drain them until they stop dripping! Fabian and Luis don't even wait that long I don't think!

 

[S_N]

I've started B on it, but not H - yet! I am waiting for a call back on that front........

I don't get the refference to SB

 

[S_N]

That's interesting - thankies

I think B is already looking different on this diet - it's been almost a week....... I have a good imagination

 

[PapaFrita]

Wasn't it Seabiscuit who started us all off on soaked oats?

 

[S_N]

Was it? My Bowen Therapist was yacketing on at me about it, then I read about it on here, but I can't remember who's post it was.....

 

[severnmiles]

Well she got alot of us on it a while back, everyone was asking her about it!

 

[seabiscuit]

Yes it all started off with a discussion with PF about how amazing soaked oats were- and PF no longer suffers from colic trouble and thus we have got an increasing number of people onto the diet!

I am glad because it is quite hard to source qaulity whole oats from my feed merchants so am hoping that repeated requests will eventually mean that they will make more of an effort to buy in good oats!

I am pretty sure that Tiger Oats are bruised oats not whole oats which would mean that unlike whole oats the outer husk of the oat would be damaged which is THE most important part of the oat.. full of vitamin E and oils...which becomes fully digestible when soaked.. hence that is why people who dont know about soaking oats feed bruised/rolled oats as the horses cant digest the outer husk but as said the outer husk is the most important part.
I dont like the fact that the tiger oats come with these little vitamin pellets there is no need for it - it is just a money making thing I would guess- and I would bet that it is made out of substances which horses cant digest very well thus increasing colic risk and digestion trouble.
All you need to feed with soaked oats is alfalfa and seaweed which must work out to being one hell of a lot A) cheaper and B) healthier for a horse.

 

[SirenaXVI]

I feed bruised oats or naked oats when I can find them - would you feed soaked oats for weight gain or energy? Ask because I don't want the weight

but am interested and would swap over. Echo what you say about decent oats, really hard to come by at the moment and the bad news is that my feedmerchant just told me that they would be even worse soon as the oat harvest was so poor

 

[seabiscuit]

You can feed for either weight gain or energy- when I was fattening Owen up- I fed him up to 3 scoops a day. Now he is nice and fat I am only having to feed him under 1 scoop a day and he is doing an hours work- hacking/schooling, 6 times a week. He does not need any more than this as he has just the right amount of energy! He would be VERY fresh on 3 scoops!

 

[druid]

Cleaned whole oats

 

[vicm2509]

Can I ask why the whole oats need to be drained before feeding? I mean if you are going to add water to the feed anyway can you not use the water you have soaked them in?

 

[S_N]

That's a good question - I'll ask Ellen when I get hold of her!

 

[S_N]

I agree, getting hold of whole oats is a real pain in the proverbial!! My feed merchant has been and talked a local farmer in to letting me 'have' some from his grain silo

This diet gets cheaper by the minute

 

[druid]

I suppsoe you could, I soak mine (2kg) in about 15l of water though which would be waaaay to much to wet the feed plus I feed Speedi-beet so wet feed with that

 

[Tia]

I use whole oats and only drain till they stop dripping. Gosh methinks us lot are too lazy! Or impatient, LOL!

 

[Tia]

When I did my research on feeding oats again after a break of about 30 years LOL! I found that the energy which is released from whole oats is utilised as heat; what I mean is that the horse uses the energy to keep him warm rather than making him fizzy and unmanageable. This was the one big reason I decided that this was the feed for my guys as 60% or thereabouts is used for keeping warm.

I think the problems associated with feeding oats (in that lots of people think that your horse will be whacky on them) is possibly down to horses being rugged to the hilt and living in very warm barns. Then the oats energy can't be used for warming and so it is released in a different manner.

 

[SirenaXVI]

Yes makes total sense, the trouble with my girl is that she would not waste all the heat by getting fizzy - she would rather lay down full fat layers

am tempted to give it a go, if I can only get some whole oats

 

[K9Wendy]

As you feed whole oats to a lot of horses have you notice any passing through in the dung? When I feed soaked oats there were quite a lot of oat in the dung and I wondered if this was normal?

 

[K9Wendy]

Connelly's Red Mills sell whole oats, about £6 per 20kg from my feed merchant. Though I am told the cattle feed merchant in the next town sells them in plain sacks for 1/2 that price, no manufacturers name, just loose oats..

 

[druid]

No, not at all - though my chcikens tend to scrupulously go through and dung so I may just not being seeing them!

 

[rrose]

we use tiger oats and use after they stop dripping

 

[Tia]

No I hardly ever see oats in the dung......only time I ever see it is if I don't soak them.

 

[dizzydolly]

Tiger oats are a good marketing gimmick - it says they have all the necessary vits and mins in those little pellets that are added to them, but if you do your research, you actually need to add a feed balancer too, as the oats pass through the horse too quickly, and they dont get the benefit of those pellets, if you see what i mean, i'm not explaining it very well. Plus they are bl00dy expensive!! A bag of straight whole oats is approx £4.50 - £5, a bag of Tiger oats must be nearly double that!! Soaking them is absolutely a waste of time and money, and not the idea at all. Either feed them with a feed balancer, or feed plain soaked whole oats.

Using the water that drains off the soaked oats also is not the idea. This is full of the crap you have soaked them to get rid of! It is disgusting and smelly if you look at it, the goodness is not outside the oat, it is inside, so that water is of no benefit whatsoever, just throw it away

 

[Clodagh]

When we harvested our oats I took all my dustbins into the cornbarn and filled them up between lorries!! Tee hee!!

 

[sharni]

is there any reason why I cant feed soaked bruised oats? what will be the feeding difference? can i use the oaty water to soak sugarbeet in?