Sold without passport, who do I report it to??

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As the header says, I stupidly bought a yearling last September without a passport, long and short of it is I bought the colt over the phone, it was based in the South of England, I am in the north of Scotland, we discussed everything and I was assured passport, papers etc would be in order by the time I picked him up two months later, a deposit was paid and in September I made the journey south with my OH and when we arrived was met by seller shown horse remaining money handed over to be told there was no passport, he "hadn't had time to get it sorted", now I know I was in the wrong to uplift horse and take him home but as soon as I got home I applied for a basic ID passport, had him chipped and the rest is history BUT if it is against the law to sell a horse without a passport who do I report him to??? No one really seems interested and damned if I am going to let him get away with it, finally got breed papers last week for the dam but nothing on the sire. Please no lectures, I know I was stupid!! I just need advice if anyone has it??
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Trading Standards in the County he was sold. Just look on the County Council website and find the contact details of the Trading Standards department, all councils have these. There may be an email contact or a telephone number.
 
Unless he is superly bred and you have been diddled, and it would reduce his sale price without breed history, you have a chip and a passport now so I would save the hassle and enjoy your horse...

Passports are a huge ple of crap as far as I am concerned.
 
In theory, you have also broken the law by transporting the colt to a new home without a passport accompanying him. If you had used a licensed transporter, they would have refused to pick him up. So the best thing would be to chalk it up to experience and forget about it and enjoy your colt.
 
Happytohack has said it all really, to add though you could be in trouble yourself if you have applied for a passport knowing he already had one. The time to have made an issue was before you took him away. In the 2mths from agreement to pick up you should have ensured his owner/breeder had all the docs in order. You should of refused to collect him until this was in place reminding the seller that it was illegal to do otherwise.
 
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I wouldn't bother - no one seems remotely interested tbh.

Save your phone bill and first class stamp......

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Unfortunately, this is absolutely right.
 
maybee is he was just a yearling he didnt have a passport not as if he would have any history,but just make sure he wasnt stolen as a youngster check all sites,my friend purchased a colt from shrewsbury horse sales last year and they gave her the wrong passport she contacted them and they wernt intrested so some one else has hers and defra wasnt botherd the auction said it was for here to check it before leaveing but when your trying to catch a unhandled grey section a your not going to look in its mouth or see its got slight difrent colour on its legs
 
He didn't have a passport, thats why I applied for one, I know I broke the law by transporting him but else can you do when money has been handed over and a hefty deposit paid via the bank two months previous oh and emails and telephones calls all confirmed his passport and papers where in order, what else could be done I thought I had safe guarded myself, like I said in my first post I didn't want any lectures just advice I know I have been stupid and don't need everyone to point it out, I know what I have done wrong I was just looking for advice not chastisement. AND I fully intend to enjoy him.
 
Your forgetting that the passport caper is to make money for the powers that be, not actually do anything, just like the Horse tax will be, they will take the money and run.
 
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He didn't have a passport, thats why I applied for one, I know I broke the law by transporting him but else can you do when money has been handed over .

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Learn from your mistakes - only pay a deposit, and dont hand over anything else until you have the horse and passport.

I swear they should have made it compulsory to chip horses, not passport them.
 
Yeah I know I am getting that feeling, just thought there was something that I could do, why should he get off with it?? But guess I am just being bitchy now and looks like I will have to let it pass, yearling came from breeder so no excuses as to not having him passported and registered but hopefully if nothing else it might be a deterent for the next gullable person thinking of doing what I did no matter how many miles you had just travelled to collect!! Well and truly had my wrists slapped!
 
We have just had a very similar situation, arrived to collect pony day after sale, got it loaded only to be told they couldn't find the passport. He was passported so I have spoken to issuing authority and am just going to get a replacement. It is bloody annoying though when they do this, in our case I reckon they gave our passport to someone else.
 
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Get over it, you have a live healthy horse that you love and a bit of paper isn't the be all and end all.

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Ouch, hope I never have the misfortune of doing business with you!
 
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He didn't have a passport, thats why I applied for one, I know I broke the law by transporting him but else can you do when money has been handed over .

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Learn from your mistakes - only pay a deposit, and dont hand over anything else until you have the horse and passport.

I swear they should have made it compulsory to chip horses, not passport them.

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It is law now to microchip for a new passport - luckily I know the person who bred my mare, but the numpty I brought her off 'lost' the passport so they had to chip her in order to get a new one....
 
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