sole bruise? also in Vet

[digitalangel]

can anyone tell me how long these take to resolve? my boy is on day 5 of a sole bruise but still has heat in foot despite bute. vet has been.

what are the signs a bruise is turning into an abcess?

or worse? vet wants to xray monday if no improvement.

bruise is on medial to the right of the seat of corn

( sorry for x-posting, very worried )

 

[abbieandfiona]

maybe worth asking your farrier to take a look?

 

[Dancing Queen]

i assume you have been hot poulticing the hoof? this should speed up the process but depends on how deep the bruise is. Can you see any bruising or is it just lameness? xx

 

[Walrus]

My boy had a bruised foot - he got a stone stuck in the gap next to his frog out hacking and was mildly lame to trot up on concrete. He did it on the Sat and vet came on the monday. The vet cut away a bit of his sole to expose the bruise, he was on bute for 4 days and polticed overnight for 4 days, he had a week off and was absolutely fine. I polticed his foot overnight for 4 days to just bring out the bruising and try to avoid an abcess.

Sorry if that doesn;t help very much - I think the politicing was the key to avoiding an abcess although his bruise was very mild.

 

[digitalangel]

vets instructions were not to poultice as it will soften sole - he has recommend cold-tub.

Hes seems sound on a straight line, but a bit off on tight turns - tho this could also be because of unbalance due to lack of shoe. He is flat-footed which complicates things further.

Am trying to get hold of a farrier. Have spoken to vets who say if no better by monday they will want to get rads.

 

[digitalangel]

My boy had a bruised foot - he got a stone stuck in the gap next to his frog out hacking and was mildly lame to trot up on concrete. He did it on the Sat and vet came on the monday. The vet cut away a bit of his sole to expose the bruise, he was on bute for 4 days and polticed overnight for 4 days, he had a week off and was absolutely fine. I polticed his foot overnight for 4 days to just bring out the bruising and try to avoid an abcess.

Sorry if that doesn;t help very much - I think the politicing was the key to avoiding an abcess although his bruise was very mild.

thanks, but i have been told not to poultice. Also its not a stone bruise. how long did it take for the heat to go???

 

[Dancing Queen]

get a farrier asap, get the xrays done asap - i do not want to alarm you but it maybe onset of laminitis and the pedal bone maybe affected as he is lame on turns not on the straight. I hope this is not the case and i hope it is just a bruise.

My vet and farrier told me to hot poultice mine as they thought it was a deep seated abcess or a bruised sole. Have you recorded the temperatures of the hoof against the other one?
If your vet has told you to cold tub it then i would follow the vets instructions but get him looked at asap - is he on box rest?

I hope you get it resolved asap xx

 

[digitalangel]

thanks for your thoughts.


yes hes been on box rest since xmas eve. he went lame RF immediately after shoeing. crippled lame. vet removed shoe 4 hours later and much improvement but not much improvement since. has been buted and box rested +5 days. hoof still as warm as it was on day 2. no pulse but that could be the bute.

vet says if no improvement in 5 days then rads.

 

[Walrus]

thanks, but i have been told not to poultice. Also its not a stone bruise. how long did it take for the heat to go???

Erm, probably only about 4 days, it was only mild and he is a fell so in theory has strong feet!

 

[Dancing Queen]

In that case my advice would be get the xrays done asap, mine cost about £360 for 8 plates, but by god it was well worth it. will be thinking of you xxxxxxx

 

[digitalangel]

thanks guys,

molly thanks for your thoughts, and wondering why you think lammi? not sure how being reshod could cause lammi?

( i have a laminitic pony as well )

 

[Dancing Queen]

have pm you xx

 

[showqa]

I'm very interested to read this as the vet came out to mine today and likewise said that he has most likely got a bruised sole. There's no discolouration of the sole but there is a pulse and a lot of warmth. I queried laminitis but the vet said no - again bute but no advice to poultice at all. Just to turn out to the field and if in a week there's no improvement to nerve block. He's been lame since the 23rd, and has been through a week of seriously packed ice in his feet that was impossible to keep at bay. Hence the theory of bruised sole. He's lame on the straight and in turns.

 

[Dancing Queen]

I'm very interested to read this as the vet came out to mine today and likewise said that he has most likely got a bruised sole. There's no discolouration of the sole but there is a pulse and a lot of warmth. I queried laminitis but the vet said no - again bute but no advice to poultice at all. Just to turn out to the field and if in a week there's no improvement to nerve block. He's been lame since the 23rd, and has been through a week of seriously packed ice in his feet that was impossible to keep at bay. Hence the theory of bruised sole. He's lame on the straight and in turns.

My farrier has had increased cases of laminitis in the last couple of weeks due to the snow. I would get the vet to reassess and get him box rested and possibly get some x rays done - that what you can rule other things out xx

 

[noblesteed]

Mine had a bruised sole over the summer that took 4 weeks to heal up. Immediately after shoeing he was sound on straight, only lame on turns. I got vet out who said box rest then x-ray, farrier said don;t be hasty on xray due to £££££ and he was SURE it was a bruise. So I hot poulticed for a week and tubbed in salt, also applied arnica gel to sole and fed arnica. After a week boxrest I put him out and took a further 3 weeks to come sound. Hasn't recurred!

 

[Andalucian]

yes hes been on box rest since xmas eve. he went lame RF immediately after shoeing. crippled lame. vet removed shoe 4 hours later and much improvement but not much improvement since. has been buted and box rested +5 days. hoof still as warm as it was on day 2. no pulse but that could be the bute.

vet says if no improvement in 5 days then rads.

Am I the only one banging their head against the wall here? Are you saying he was sound before shoeing and lame immediately afterwards, just on the RF? How on earth does a vet diagnose anything but nail bind given this set of circumstances?

Crazy.

Save your money, keep his foot wrapped in something soft for comfort, a couple of nappies is cheapest, wrapped in duck tape. Check his pulses, daily. If there is a pulse, then poultice to allow the infection to burst out. If not, then maybe you'll be lucky and there won't be an abscess.

Either way you should expect a minimum of 2 weeks recovery and up to 6-8 weeks if he abscesses.

Did you call your farrier to advise him? He needs to know the horse went lame immediately after shoeing. He should be involved in the horse's recovery and is probably best able to advise on foot care post shoeing.

 

[Ginger Bear]

I would get your farrier to have a look first.. a few months ago my boy came in very lame & as I was going away for the weekend the next day I called the vet out there & then, he came out & told me that he had a sole bruise & to poultice it for a few days, but there was no improvement, called my farrier out & the vet had got it completely wrong & he actually had a corn.. if the farrier doesn't know then I would go ahead with the vets advise & get the x-rays done..

 

[tristar]

i think that anything hot on an infection increases the pain.
i would keep him on very soft bedding to reduce concussion, it could be many things, my pony had a bruised hoof from her feet being pared too much and was lame or some months, this caused her to have a haematoma, blood blister inside her hoof , which was cut and drained, but she did not recover till she had antibiotics, FIVE VETS LATER, and 7 months down the road, don't worry too much i'm sure it will come right, as mine did.

 

[digitalangel]

thanks everyone.

off bute, very slight pulse, no difference in level of soundness. heat still in hoof. farrier arranged for tomorrow.

Could be many other things than nail bind, as shoe was twisted and resting on medial sole, exactly where he tested +tive to hoof testers. Not where a nail would go. But a possibility. This is why i am getting another set of eyes on it asap before i go down the xrays path.

I am thinking a bruise which is now brewing as an abcess?

vet asked not to poultice and cold-tub instead

 

[ponypops]

absolutely identical situation with pony last spring. within a week she was sound on straight and sound to anyone not eagle eyed on spotting the odd short step or discomfort when turning onto that foot. if i remember rightly it was best part of a month before i was completely happy with her again.

with any lameness issues ,however certain i am on knowing the problem i always panic and start compiling a long list of other things causing the lameness. Its called worry!!!!!!!! in first instance just be a bit patient and try not to worry. i certainly would not start throwing loads of money at xrays at this stage.