Some quick advice please.

[Meowy Catkin]

I really was hoping it wouldn't need to be dug out as it really messed the hoof up before and horse had been shoeless and sound for years. It seemed to me that digging it out really affected the feet long term.

This is exactly what I found.

Left alone to pop at the coronet = 24 hours to three days from noticing problem to it popping and horse is totally sound once it's popped.

Letting the Vet dig at it = weeks of trouble and pain for the poor horse as the whole thing is dragged out and if they've dug into the sole it's sore for ages even if you just press on that spot with your finger.

Here's another for Susie (horse totally sound on this hoof).

 

[cptrayes]

well there you go, you got lucky. If you're willing to take the chance of permanent damage to your horses hoof, so be it.

No Susie, I did not "get lucky". I follow advice given by many hoof professionals and vets that abscesses which burst on their own rarely cause any more trouble and usually heal with less lameness. Since I started to take that advice, I have found it to be completely accurate.

They are better out the bottom, you don't get damage growing down the hoof wall weakening it

The weakening is neglible. I have BE evented a horse with a hole growing down. It causes no trouble. Unlike holes in the sole, which can be sore for ages.

and you don't risk permanent damage to the hoof.

It doesn't cause permanent damage to the hoof, it grows out.

an appropriately sized and located hole will be safer and heal faster than these coronet band farces.

And your evidence for that is where, exactly?

And how do you answer the farriers and vets who disagree with you (including it would seem this posters own vet)?


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[maccachic]

Fully agree (festive faracat and christmasptrees)with both posts above a farrier explained to me about trying to pop a pimple that isn't ready you just make a mess.

I have had a few abcesses with my guy - resolving hoof issues and always pop out within 3 days and sound afterwards, never had an issue with his feet afterwards. the other guy doesn't even come up lame if he gets them you just see where they have been when trimming.

 

[Moomin1]

So an absess, how long should it roughly take to pop (gross I know)

If it take over say 4 days should one be worried?

Is there anyway to make it burst quicker?

Do they always burst on their own or do they need vet/farrier sometimes?

These might sound like simple questions but the only other time ned has had an absess we have had vet out next day and he drained it.

Before I am jumped on I have spoken to vet and have his advice but just wanted a second opinion.

Seriously, if you have a qualified vet's advice, why on earth are you asking random people who you don't know on a forum (who may well themselves have less than adequate care standards for all you know) what to do? Either take your qualified vet's advice or call another one for a second opinion.

 

[cptrayes]

Seriously, if you have a qualified vet's advice, why on earth are you asking random people who you don't know on a forum (who may well themselves have less than adequate care standards for all you know) what to do? Either take your qualified vet's advice or call another one for a second opinion.

Moomin!!!

PLEASE can you stop saying things that I agree with. Anyone would think it was Christmas

 

[Moomin1]

Moomin!!!

PLEASE can you stop saying things that I agree with. Anyone would think it was Christmas

Yes it's getting quite scary now!

 

[Nightmare before Christmas]

Have you used a hot salty poltice?

 

[Ginge Crosby]

Have to say, i've had alot of abcesses in my tb and the one time the farrier couldn't find where to dig it out, and it burst at the coronet band, it was a much worse situation with a prolonged recovery than when it was dug out from the sole. But that is simply from my own experiences, and not based on fact from my own vet or farrier. With digging out, recovery to soundness in mine has never taken more than a week. But when it popped at coronet band, took about 3-4 weeks before he was fully sound.

Walking out in hand definitely helps circulation. I've tried using hot animalintex, epsom salts, and more recently hot apple cinder vinegar, and the latter had the most effect. I always prefer my farrier to do any digging, but if lameness is severe or prolonged I'd also consult vet for his opinion.

 

[goldenmint]

So for those that have asked why I am asking advice, tbh I think your crazy to not try and get as much info from as many different sorces as possible.

I ask advice from anywhere I can get it I'm not stupid and will still follow common sense! I will pick the advice I think works for my horse and my situation.

I think its very poor horse management to blindly follow vets advice. Vets are human and go on their opinion. I trust my vet he is very good but he is not infallible

How do you expect anyone to learn if they never question and ask for opinions or experiences.

Half of these post on 'my vet said this, and now its worse' or 'we have tried everything and still no better' would be void if people only questoned more.

 

[Ginge Crosby]

So for those that have asked why I am asking advice, tbh I think your crazy to not try and get as much info from as many different sorces as possible.
I will pick the advice I think works for my horse and my situation.

I think its very poor horse management to blindly follow vets advice. Vets are human and go on their opinion. I trust my vet he is very good but he is not infallible

How do you expect anyone to learn if they never question and ask for opinions or experiences.

Have to say i do agree, i always like to gather as much info as poss and then if what vet has suggested isnt working, try something which has been recommended by more than one person. With horses you are always learning something new every day. Whilst vets are treating horses, what works for one horse may not work for another. I follow my vets advice as long as it is working, but when it's the standard 'poultice with animalintex for x days' and no pus is coming out, i'd rather move on to something which others have experienced and who have results, than blindly follow my vets advice which may not be working. I'm not questioning my vets abilities or skill, but experienced horsemen/women who care for horses on a daily basis may have an alternative treatment which works over than the standard treatment suggestions offered by vets.

It's off this very forum that i learned about apple cider vinegar, and so far its been the best treatment for abscesses for my horse. If i had followed my vet's advice rigidly my horse would probably have been lame for a lot longer.

 

[dark_prince]

Don't worry too much if it takes a day or too before the poultice draws the infection out. If it has been more than a couple days, however, I agree with others to get back in touch with farrier/vet!

 

[goldenmint]

Have to say i do agree, i always like to gather as much info as poss and then if what vet has suggested isnt working, try something which has been recommended by more than one person. With horses you are always learning something new every day. Whilst vets are treating horses, what works for one horse may not work for another. I follow my vets advice as long as it is working, but when it's the standard 'poultice with animalintex for x days' and no pus is coming out, i'd rather move on to something which others have experienced and who have results, than blindly follow my vets advice which may not be working. I'm not questioning my vets abilities or skill, but experienced horsemen/women who care for horses on a daily basis may have an alternative treatment which works over than the standard treatment suggestions offered by vets.

It's off this very forum that i learned about apple cider vinegar, and so far its been the best treatment for abscesses for my horse. If i had followed my vet's advice rigidly my horse would probably have been lame for a lot longer.

I have missed the advice on Apple Cider could you explain please

Spoken to farrier and trying to arrange a vist as nothing on poltice last night or this morning either and don't want to leave it any longer TBH.

I can always cancel if it suddenly drains anyway.