sorry another barefoot one..

Some of his books are hard going and very hard to follow. :D I do like his trim and horse keeping philosophy though. He was the first barefoot person I came across and I still thank him for what I learned.

ps. I get the feeling he isn't a 'people person' but that is just an impression.
 
He's taught a lot of people a lot.

My understanding is that he advocates that the wild horse hoof is the ideal we should all be aiming for. But my experience is that the feet of hardworking horses in the UK look nothing like a wild horse hoof and that the model is not appropriate as an objective in the UK, if indeed it is anywhere.
 
cptrayes said:
He's taught a lot of people a lot.

My understanding is that he advocates that the wild horse hoof is the ideal we should all be aiming for. But my experience is that the feet of hardworking horses in the UK look nothing like a wild horse hoof and that the model is not appropriate as an objective in the UK, if indeed it is anywhere.
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yes i aggree with you... but whats with the keeping laminitics moving by putting a bully horse in with it.. i aggree giving them some movement if they want to ,but not force them?..
 
tango'smum said:
yes i aggree with you... but whats with the keeping laminitics moving by putting a bully horse in with it.. i aggree giving them some movement if they want to ,but not force them?..
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I've never seen that bit. If he means a lame laminitic, then I would say that was abusive. If he means a recovering one who is mechanically compromised but not in much pain, it's a great idea to put it in with one more pile of hay than the number of horses, and a boss (not bully!) horse. I have one like that and he keeps the other two gently moving all the time with just a flick of his ear or a toss of his head. I credit him with the other's good feet :) !
 
cptrayes said:
I've never seen that bit. If he means a lame laminitic, then I would say that was abusive. If he means a recovering one who is mechanically compromised but not in much pain, it's a great idea to put it in with one more pile of hay than the number of horses, and a boss (not bully!) horse. I have one like that and he keeps the other two gently moving all the time with just a flick of his ear or a toss of his head. I credit him with the other's good feet :) !
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when i had my boy barefoot, i was told by trimmer to take him for walks, feed oats, (which i didnt)i box rested him... and to turn him out on hard rocks and gravel.. trimmer was trained by him... all 4 pedel bones rotated.. can i pm you i need some advise...
 
tango'smum said:
when i had my boy barefoot, i was told by trimmer to take him for walks, feed oats, (which i didnt)i box rested him... and to turn him out on hard rocks and gravel.. trimmer was trained by him... all 4 pedel bones rotated.. can i pm you i need some advise...
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Nightmare. PM away :)
 
I have never read him advocate putting a laminitic onto rocks :eek: but he does advocate movement and doesn't stress about pads or supportive surfaces. This is where I part company with him on this matter. He is highly into being totally 'natural' but does see the need for pain relief. Hooves will only rotate and sink if lamina are compromised and the pedal bone isn't supported from underneath in my view. The lamina inflammation is the prime cause and this needs to be got under control with diet and be grown out. Rocks etc. would be painful and put the horse at risk of abscess and rotation in my numpty view. I am also of the view of allowing a horse (with well supported hooves) to move at their own pace.

He has taught many people now at the forefront of barefoot hoof care for eg. Pete Ramey trained with him initially but has since gone his own way.
 
tango'smum said:
yes i aggree with you... but whats with the keeping laminitics moving by putting a bully horse in with it.. i aggree giving them some movement if they want to ,but not force them?..
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I don't know where you picked that from :confused:.

I've never read anything of Jaime Jackson suggesting that :confused:.

The philosophy (also advocated by some vets) is to allow a horse (when no longer acute) some turnout in a grass free paddock with a companion in order to provide some stimulation and the will to live. Recovery from lami is partly the will to survive as well as the physical.

I have respect for Jaime Jackson's interest in the hoof....but I fear his ego has overtaken his willingness to keep learning and I would allow an AAHNCP trained trimmer to work on my horses only when thoroughly vetted.

It's a bit of a cult IME.
 
Oberon said:
Pea gravel?
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I don't remember a mention of it in Founder, Prevention and Cure but it is an old book now. I will have a browse of his new one later but I don't recall it mentioned there either. I was concentrating on the trim bits when I read it.
 
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