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Im am getting even more nervous now as have got first WH class on Saturday. Would be grateful is someone could please aswer a few questions.

1. Am I to wear my showing clothes or a black jacket? (I am presuming tweed).

2. Plain numnah? i.e black one or none at all as apposed to white?

3. Will I be doing the showing part or the jumping first?

4. Is the jumping judged the same as SJ or is it just up to the judge to decide how obedient the horse is?


5. Can I wear spurs?

6. What exactly is the judge looking for? Just a horse that is obedient. i.e will do a nice show, jump a nice round and is generally obedient? Or do they take breed, conformation, apperance etc into consideration?

7. And is it definatly ok to use a snaffle with flash bride for both parts? And can I use a martingale or am I best leaving it off? I only generally use it for jumping.
 
Hi My daughter did a WH class last year so that's the limit of my knowledge! but definately not white numnah, think black would be fine for jumping but think she took it off for showing part, and tweed jacket. Good Luck
 
Tweed jacket
I prefer no numnah or a unobtrusive one same colour as saddle
Jumping first, usually only clear rounds ( or if no clear rounds ones with less faults) go through to showing
It is the way the horse jumps/obdience etc that counts
You can wear spurs
They take into account obdience/jumping style, movement, conformation etc just like a normal show class, is horse suitable for hunting
Whatever tack you use for jumping you must use for showing part, you are only allowed to remove the horses boots for showing part, so if you jump with martingale it must be on for showing
 
1. Tweed or navy is correct, with a tie, not a stock.
2. If he doesn't need a numnah, don't use one, but if he does, go for black.
3. You will be jumping your round first, and then you will be called into the showing part afterwards if the judge wants you to.
4. Jumping is judged on manners, way of going, and style of jumping.
5. You can wear spurs.
6. They mainly judge on the horses jumping wise, but also take conformation and looks into consideration. A WH needs to be suitable for the hunting field.
7. A snaffle with a flash bridle is fine for both parts, do you really need a martingale, or is he fine without one jumping? Because if you are called into the second part you're not allowed to take off the martingale, and if there's a tiebreaker the person with the least tack will win.

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Dont want to jump in on your post but I was just wondering which is most acceptable for WH a snaffle or a double bridle?
 
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what other discipline do you do is it dressage ??

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I do mostly dressage, just started SJ but he can be a little nervy but he much prefers rustics which is why I wanted to give WH a go. I did a Show Hunter last season and he did well and plan to do a few more this season. I only had him out once last season as id only just got him so I havent worked out what he is best at yet.

Thanks for the replies everyone, think that has cleared most things up. I will leave the martingale off, we are only doing the 2ft6 so he should be ok without it.
 
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Dont want to jump in on your post but I was just wondering which is most acceptable for WH a snaffle or a double bridle?

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This is the question I asked last week. The replies lead me to believe that snaffle is the best.
 
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Dont want to jump in on your post but I was just wondering which is most acceptable for WH a snaffle or a double bridle?

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For Open WH classes either a double or pelham is correct, and for Novice WH classes a snaffle is correct
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a lady at my yard does some WH classes but her main or 1st discipline as it were, is dressage; she got told at the show yesterday that she is just not workmanlike enough and her gallop just wouldnt cut it in the hunting field so thats something to bear in mind (she got placed down the line up for it)
so try not to be too light and airy fairy (sorry im not very dressagey haha) and be a bit more workmanlike and like you mean business as i must admit the classes ive watched lately you can spot the people that do dresssage straight off, you can also spot the people that dont hunt straight away too! really go for it on your gallop - as long as you can stop!!!! a half arsed gallop isnt worth doing.
hope that is of help. yes spurs, no white numnah - try to use everything brown if you can it looks nicer especially as your horse is bay. tie your number with elastic same colour as your jacket.
oh and remember to smile !!!!
 
Good luck. Vicki is right, you have to be workmanlike. The jumping should be done as you would out hunting, in a good strong canter, flowing and jumped out of the horse's stride - not bouncing them in like a showjumper. Both the faults (knock downs and refusals) and the style of the round are taken into consideration. In the showing section the judge will be looking for a well mannered, obediant horse, who moves forward off the leg and gives a good gallop. They'll also be looking for conformation, particularly of the legs, because hunting can be hard on a horse's legs so you want limbs that will withstand it.

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Dont want to jump in on your post but I was just wondering which is most acceptable for WH a snaffle or a double bridle?

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For Open WH classes either a double or pelham is correct, and for Novice WH classes a snaffle is correct
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TBH it doesn't matter whether it's a novice or open class, use the bit your horse goes best in. A double does look very smart, but it's no good if your horse resents jumping in one.

The severity of the bit will be taken into consideration (you wouldn't want to take a horse hunting who looks strong wearing a gag in a show class!).
 
Well hes got a good gallop I know that for sure. I dont hunt but on hacks he will jump all the solid jumps with ease and enjoys it a lot more than he would SJ. I will go with the snaffle as I know he will stop easily.

Now with the jumping if I just keep a nice contact and steady but bold canter all the way round is that ok? I have to admit he doesnt like water trays so will have to work on that this week
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TBH im not really a dressage person its just my horse is good at it so thats why I do it, just while im trying to build up his confidence SJ.

Oh and are they looking for me to keep my horse in a nice outline throughout? im only asking as it may be hard to get him back to working nice and round after my gallop.
 
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Now with the jumping if I just keep a nice contact and steady but bold canter all the way round is that ok?

Oh and are they looking for me to keep my horse in a nice outline throughout? im only asking as it may be hard to get him back to working nice and round after my gallop.

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A steady, bold canter would be perfect.

And yes they are ideally looking for a horse that goes in an outline as much as possible, but try not to worry about it too much as long as he's going as well as he can.
 
But dont worry....do your gallop at the end of you show and that way he will just have to go back to the line after, no more working.

Make sure all your paces are forward going - remember the judge is looking for something who can hunt!

Also, for WH it is correct to show a gallop after your jumping round. Just for one side or something, then bring back to canter, trot, walk, halt, salute.

Good luck!
 
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Also, for WH it is correct to show a gallop after your jumping round. Just for one side or something, then bring back to canter, trot, walk, halt, salute.


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Do you always do this?

I never do it unless I've been asked (and at BSPS clinics etc was told not to) because it can look like you're being taken off with! (and you show your gallop in the showing section anyway). When I'm juding, I don't expect it.
 
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Dont want to jump in on your post but I was just wondering which is most acceptable for WH a snaffle or a double bridle?

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For Open WH classes either a double or pelham is correct, and for Novice WH classes a snaffle is correct
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Sorry but I'd argue there...

Snaffle is fine in opens - ours won and placed to county level and qualified for BSPS champs - always in a snaffle and hunting breastplate - as it looks more "workmanlike"

We've never been marked down for the breastplate/martingale.

In a Show Hunter class its snaffle for novice and pelham/double for open.

Other than that, what everyone else has said. Tweed jacket. No numnah or unobtrusive one the colour of your tack. Jumping style counts and more of your marks are from the jumping section than the showing section. A good controlled canter flowing into jumps without having to lengthen and shorten strides and a bold but controlled jump is what you are aiming for.

You get more penalties for a stop than a knockdown and can in some cases make up enough points in the jumping with the style etc, and your show, to cover a knockdown.

The main thing to remember though - have fun!
 
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