speaking of planners... someone grassed me up for my stables...:(

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i got a letter from the planning peeps the other day saying someone had made a complaint and said i'd got stable block up without planning permission. it went on to say the planning people had been to visit and seen that i have got said stable block and to contact them immediately...

so i did, and i explained they are mobile stables (on skids) and planning man was fine with it, and said that was fine. and if i ever wanted to make them permanent, to give him a ring etc etc. so.. he was nice. and i'm not in trouble... but...

i'm broken hearted...
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why has someone grassed me up? we live rurally, so stables don't affect anyone or their view. i have about 4 close-ish neighbours. and i've only lived here since september... so i can't have annoyed anyone. i hope!

i'm not even riding at the moment so it's not like they're fed up of me clipclopping past their house or anything...

also, i feel really funny and defensive about the fact someone has been nosing around on my land. when i was up at the stables the other day, the horses were acting odd, and i noticed someone dart behind a bush in the neighbouring field. i had sleepness nights worrying my horses were going to be stolen. but i reckon now it was someone nosing at my stuff...
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and now i know the planning people have been nosing too.

i feel like a little terrier - i want to go out there and bark and scare people away from my land... god, next i'll have 23454 cats, and a shotgun on my lap whilst sitting in the front garden in a rosking chair...
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Well I learnt something the other day in that for example if you put in a planning application the planners make sure that everything around it has formal approval, so as not to set a precedent if they approve yours on the basis of the neighbours having something they shouldn't.

I know someone who has just bought a piece of land and put in an application for stables and when the planners came out they discovered her neighbours had put up there yard without approval and are now going down the enforcement route so indirectly the person I know has created a problem for the neighbours who now won't speak to them cos they think she ' dobbed' them in.


It might be similar for you.
 
Ah thats horrible some people go out of there way to upset peoples lives and busy themselves in other peoples business. At least you aren't in trouble that's the main thing, but i don't think it's fair people just wander on to YOUR land to be nosey. i know someone who had the planning people up constantly trying to get them for something as they were doing lots of building work in the end they caught one of the planners on the land he said he is reporting him to the police for watching his wife get undressed in the window and being suspicious around his kids (of course he wasn't but he was left alone from then on!)

I think you should get a couple of guard dogs that should do the trick!!
 
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Ah thats horrible some people go out of there way to upset peoples lives and busy themselves in other peoples business. At least you aren't in trouble that's the main thing, but i don't think it's fair people just wander on to YOUR land to be nosey. i know someone who had the planning people up constantly trying to get them for something as they were doing lots of building work in the end they caught one of the planners on the land he said he is reporting him to the police for watching his wife get undressed in the window and being suspicious around his kids (of course he wasn't but he was left alone from then on!)

I think you should get a couple of guard dogs that should do the trick!!

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Thats a bit harsh. If someone makes a complaint the planners are obliged to follow it up. Its the law. I have to go onto peoples property to do my job. If its a residential property they can ask me to leave but then I would have to get a warrant and go back another day! If its non residential I have the authority to go on at any time. But then I dont peep through peoples window watching them get undressed!
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Unfortunately, you will get this where ever you live!! You could buy every one a chocolate cake, and be their best friend when you move into a new area, but there will always be one person, who has nothing better to do than stand by their window watching other people!!

You have the last laugh, as like you say, your not in trouble, so they can sit and spin!!!
 
Planning is one area that makes generally normal and reasonable people absoutely rabid... some of the calls and letters you see are awful! Just look at all the cr@p that was spouted when SAAFA wanted to open a place for families of injured servicepeople to stay near to Headley Court, so that they could visit their loved ones while they were being rehabilitated! Some of the things people were coming out with were unbelievable, they were being so utterly selfish about the whole thing, especialy considering all they were applying for was permission to change the use of an existing house. So nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to planning
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Planning is one area that makes generally normal and reasonable people absoutely rabid... some of the calls and letters you see are awful! Just look at all the cr@p that was spouted when SAAFA wanted to open a place for families of injured servicepeople to stay near to Headley Court, so that they could visit their loved ones while they were being rehabilitated! Some of the things people were coming out with were unbelievable, they were being so utterly selfish about the whole thing, especialy considering all they were applying for was permission to change the use of an existing house. So nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to planning
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Absolutely! Brings the worst oput in everyone.
 
I've been warned that my piece of land is being watched by neighbours for any signs of development. atm we have a mobile caravan on there, not attached to any services and not lived in and no-one has dared to comment as it was the chairman of the parish council and one of the other councillors who put it there for us. But I was warned unofficially that there are a group of people who are up in arms and just waiting for the first stable building to go up.

We will be testing the water shortly with a Protech tunnel
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Yes we have this where we live, its been going on for years. Some of the older people here seem to make it into a full-time hobby and become completely obsessed.

I even caught one of them on his hands and knees crawling behind the hedge looking at our new fencing. I just said Good Morning can I help you and he got up all embarrassed and mumbled something about being the parish council blah blah blah.....Best thing is to take no notice at all, it won't be personal. Most likely some intefering stickybeak whose got bored of daytime TV.

We've had it afew times and i used to get really upset too, now i've realised it just comes with the territory.
 
People seem to get really anal when it comes to planning. Bl**dy curtain twitchers!!

What gets me though are the people that do put up whole yards, schools, horsewalkers, the lot and get away with it with no planning permission.
 
I would just say in passing to a villager who you know will spread rumors, yes we were thinking of putting up some more stables
mind ive been chatting to a guy in a transit van he was interested in making an offer which sounded very tempting
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Sadly some people have got more time on their hands than they deserve! Nosey good for nothings!
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If you want to know who complained just ring them back and ask them - you have a right to know who it was and they will tell you (like when someone opposes your planning permission - you can find out who that is too!)
Try not to worry too much - although easier said than done!
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Why don't people just confirm with the planners before they erect stables and stuff that it's OK and they don't need consent? Then there is no argument, is there?

After all, the very reason your stables are on skids is so that you can avoid having to put in a planning application for them, isn't it? Or do you really move them every few weeks??

Try living in a National Park if you want to experience real planning restrictions.
 
qr- if you go to the council office they should have a record of who complained on your file but they generally wont say over the phone.

If its anything like round here, the complainant probably lives a mile away and isnt affected at all. Some people have too much time on their hands!
 
We put our lights up arond our school that don't affect anyone else and we got dobbed in by people up the lane from us and they got refused permission as they are right on the road.

We had t fight the case and went to appeal and have finally won it so they can bugger off!!!!
 
cptrayes - most people do put in planning applications and get the necessary approvals before they put up stables don't they? The problem is with nosy neighbours who think people are doing the wrong thing and in my experience are nearly always wrong. Fair play if they are right and someone is putting something up without permission, unfortunately when that happens it reflects badly on horsey people generally.
 
Sadly it's not so easy - you can't ring up the planning dept and say "is it ok if we do this?" as they say "we don't know, each case is individual therefore to get an answer, you have to put in full planning...which costs...£xxx"
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Thats just vindictive. You don't sh.t on your neighbours in a rural community.

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I agree but unfortunately people in rural communities tend to be much nosier and very keen on other peoples business and trying to stop them from doing things!
 
I get the impression that some people on here are anti planning. Ok let's do away with planning and see what a nice mess the countryside gets into then with no controls over what is built anywhere. As cptrayes says, it makes sense to talk to the planners first and check what restrictions apply, before you make an investment in land and property, rather than blaming the planners when you don't get consent. And regarding oti_moos post, for someone to accuse a professional person doing their job of being a peeping tom and paedophile, in my view that is shocking and could ruin that person's career. Not at all funny.
 
Tell me about it! Some git complained about our soak-away and its cost us £3,000 to put right. I wouldn't mind but every bugger around here has got a dodgy septice tank system, but I didn't grass them up!
 
Its not anti planning - its anti nosey neighbours who get their facts wrong and unfortunately the process can be misused if people want to get nasty and vindictive.

In my experience the planning guys have always been very helpful, we've had the odd enforcement officer whos been abit over zealous at time but its the troublemongerers behind the misguided complaints who get up my nose and cost the taxpayer a fortune
 
most people probably do, who siad they don't? But the OP has done this without checking first, and unless they genuinely intend to move them on a regular basis, they have used stables on skids to avoid a planning application. I don't think that puts them in a good position to complain about nosy neighbours reporting them.
 
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Sadly it's not so easy - you can't ring up the planning dept and say "is it ok if we do this?" as they say "we don't know, each case is individual therefore to get an answer, you have to put in full planning...which costs...£xxx"
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This is not my experience, and I'm in a National Park. They told me to write them a letter explaining what I wanted for my riding arena, and they would then advise whether planning consent was required or not. It was, so I applied. £180 was worth the knowledge that I was not going to be "grassed up" by a neighbour. It gave me complete peace of mind.
 
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Tell me about it! Some git complained about our soak-away and its cost us £3,000 to put right. I wouldn't mind but every bugger around here has got a dodgy septice tank system, but I didn't grass them up!

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you had a septic tank soakaway which was, by definition, a public health risk because it cost £3000 to put right and you complain that the planners were got involved by someone - words almost fail me.
 
Why on earth are you worried and upset? Nosey arsey people all around, just forget it.
 
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