Speedi beet or fast fibre

Just bumping up for you! I have switched from speedibeet to fast fibre mainly as the soaking time is less but interested to hear replies x
 
for weight gain? speedibeet

fastfibre is ok as a hay replacer or ‘carrier’ for supplements but i think its fairly boring stuff for the poor horses tbh, although i know lots like it
 
I feed so much at the mo, it's expensive but my horse needs to gain. My feed is complicated as is so I don't want to introduce too much more and I have spent the last month doing feed profiles on feed xl driving myself mad!

Would you say that speedibeet would be better than keeping him on a scoop of Alfa a a day? (I will only introduce one more thing if I can get rid of something else and I don't have a lot of alfa a left!)
 
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I feed so much at the mo, it's expensive but my horse needs to gain. My feed is complicated as is so I don't want to introduce too much more and I have spent the last month doing feed profiles on feed xl driving myself mad!

Would you say that speedibeet would be better than keeping him on a scoop of Alfa a a day? (I will only introduce one more thing if I can get rid of something else and I don't have a lot of alfa a left!)
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Alfa A would put more weight on than speedibeet i think - what else are you feeding ?
 
I think Fast fibre has about 8 Mj/DE per kg and speedibeet I think has more like 12, so I'd go for speedibeet. :)
 
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TB who lives out. Lost lots of weight when he moved to me, is slightly stress so likes to pace and use loads of energy up!

Lives out, ad lib hay all year round.

At mo is fed:

Top line cubes
Alfa a
Stud balancer
Magnesium
Brewers yeast
Soya flakes
Barley rings (including linseed) - just starting to intro these

It's complicated feed, but have done feed profiles and he should gain on it, I have lots of bags of the balancer and cubes so I must keep these in diet until they are used up (prob another 4 months)

On livery so ideally 1 feed a day (this works to be 2kg of hard feed so it's ok to feed in 1 go)

Just wondering as I near end of alfa a bag if it would be better to swap him to fibre/ beet
 
travelmad said:
Wrote v long response and Internet crashed :(

TB who lives out. Lost lots of weight when he moved to me, is slightly stress so likes to pace and use loads of energy up!

Lives out, ad lib hay all year round.

At mo is fed:

Top line cubes
Alfa a
Stud balancer
Magnesium
Brewers yeast
Soya flakes
Barley rings (including linseed) - just starting to intro these

It's complicated feed, but have done feed profiles and he should gain on it, I have lots of bags of the balancer and cubes so I must keep these in diet until they are used up (prob another 4 months)

On livery so ideally 1 feed a day (this works to be 2kg of hard feed so it's ok to feed in 1 go)

Just wondering as I near end of alfa a bag if it would be better to swap him to fibre/ beet
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no id stick with alfa a - speedibeet and fastfibre are fine for more good-dooer types tbh, you could try alfa a oil though. Shame your livery wont do a couple if not 3 feeds a day though as that would help. Does he have adlib forage? Haylage would be my preference.
 
Ad lib hay

Maybe I just continue for the moment (and go to alfa a oil). I have not been giving the soya or barley rings a chance to work, I'm just so impatient to take care of it all!

Just got proper weigh tape today so will weigh once a week and see how it goes.

I'm sure I can get yard to do 2 feeds a day as well.

Hmm panic slowly subsiding! Need to stop obsessing over his feed!
 
Tbh sounds like an awful lot of feed in one go as well as a lot of ingredients!! Personally I think they utilise their feed better in small feeds especially if need to gain weight. I'd try finding something more concentrated if u can't feed more often. I've found Spillers Original Balancer good and Dodson & Horrell Build & Glow high calorie high oil amazing for weight gain and build muscle. You only have to feed 100 g of each per 100 kg of horse. Could add either Alfa A or speedibeet if required.
 
You could swap the alpha a for readymash extra? I used readymash extra and alpha a oil to put weight on my mare with haylage as we had crap grazing. Took a month for her to go to a 1 to a 2.5 body score (on the 1-5 scale).
 
I have a 21 year old laminitic and as the weather has got colder I've swapped him to speedibeet oats and linseed (as opposed to ff and linseed) and the difference has been huge after just ten days...
 
Alpha a oil and speedibeet got weight onto the hat rack I bought before winter 2 years ago. He was getting adlib haylage in the field too. Now I have the opposite problem!
 
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