Sperm donation!

[runaway]

Don't think I've posted in here before but it would appear to be the appropriate place

What are your thoughts on the issue of Sperm Donaters not being allowed to remain anon?

I personally think that they should be allowed to remain anon. The couples using donated sperm should consider the issues it may raise (excuse the pun!!!

) if their children are to be told. If the authoraties are doing all the correct checks re health issues etc then I don't see why a donater should have to "leave" their details enabling people to trace them. Can you imagine some donors might have numerous children (in theory)

Discussion open..........

 

[Super_Kat]

You've taken the words right out of my mouth! If men want to remain anon then thats up to them, if they would potentially want to be traced they would leave details.

 

[Weezy]

AGREE AGREE AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

It REALLY PISSES ME OFFFFFFFFFFF - seriously this is a big issue of mine

Like the fact that adopted children can now be traced - errrr HELLO!!! YOU gave them up and therefore you have NO RIGHT TO THEM

Yes by all means put your name on the reg to say if the child looks for you then you are happy for your details to be given out but these new laws mean that my OH could one day get a letter from his birth mother saying that she is looking for him

ITS NOT ON and the same thing will happen with donations

GRRRRRR

 

[Super_Kat]

personally I think HHO members should run the country........We'd do a much better job

 

[runaway]

OOOH adoption is another area I feel, but just as important and "contraversial". The sperm donor issue does just make me think that for what ever reason they donate the men should have the right to anonimity. They don't donate to father hordes of kids but to enable others to have families, why should they be traceable by the offspring!

(What I'm about to put is not ment to offend so excuse my terminology etc

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With adoption if the mother (and/or father) wants to give the child the opportunity to trace them then that's all well and good but if they don't then again they should be allowed to remain anon too. Only my opinion.

(spelling really bad sorry - probably due to bottle of cider have just downed!!

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[runaway]

Just laughed my Ar** off and nearly spat my cider out.... that is such a BRILL idea

hee hee hee hee

 

[GTs]

I have been requested to be a sperm donor - I flatly refused.

But the problem about them remaining anon is the fact that family history is very important for medical reasons - not know who your father is, is detrimental to your health.

 

[Weezy]

Ahhhhhhhhhh but there is no reason why ALL details are available GTs (jst not name and location!)

 

[GTs]

But lets say at the age of 23 I am young healthy etc - but by 50 I might have high blood pressure, herpes, heart disease, diabetes.

 

[vicijp]

I think the whole sperm donation/IVF thing should be abolished. Whats meant to be (or not) is meant to be. There are far to many kids without families without bringing more into the sh1thole we call Britain.

 

[beh]

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personally I think HHO members should run the country........We'd do a much better job

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totally agree, what a brill idea lol
XJX

 

[runaway]

Don't disagree with you there totally vicijp. It's one of those topics that is easy to comment on but difficult to put yourself in the position of those who may be involved!

I know people who've made sure they cant "bring" a life into this world as they don't want to inflict this world onto anyone else - if you see what I mean.

I did mention that it the Doc's had checked family health history etc GP there shouldn't be the need to know the donor. Also the "prospective" parents should consider all of this too. Is adoption not an option?

Suppose it brings into the discussion the instances of teenage pregancy and how to curtail this etc????

 

[Weezy]

Good point GTs!

 

[Skhosu]

surely those who want kids could adopt (rather than using sperm...) and then we only have one problem!
(although this is a point I feel strongly about, and agree with vicijp)

 

[k9h]

Totally agree. They are helping them fulfill their wish so leave it at that. I have just found out that I have a half bro & know nothing about him. I am not going to go knock on his door & say hello your my half bro. He may have a family & know nothing about him being adopted. I only found out through my vindictive Gran (my Dads mother) who never liked my Mum & any chance she gets to slag her off she will even noe when my Mother died a couple of years ago from an accident aged 56. My brother & I went to see her once at Xmas & she said Well you know about the other kid your Mum had? I said yes as she misscarried between my brother & I. No not that one the one she had when she was 18 & nobody knows where it is or anything. I just replied well it will of ended up with a better life than stopping in this family. I just thought she was being her usual evil & vindictive self & seeing as my Mum couldn't say anything about it as she was dead left at that till I brought it up in discussion with my Uncle her Bro. Turns out she did have one. She was seeing one of the farm hands her Dad employed & ended up Preggers. When she told him he finally said he was married his wife was in Sheffield a with him being Catholic he was Irish that he couldn't get divorced! (No but you get my Mum up the duff!) So when she had it it wad adopted straight away & nothing more was said about it. I'm not going to go looking for him & I very much doubt he will come looking for us. But know I think I now why when I was younger my Mum didn't like me dating older men in case it was my half bro yuk!!!
But I think if you can't concieve then you are not ment to your body knows whether it should or shouldn't & there will be a good reason for it. Leave it to nature as nature intended. But our goverment give IVF away to foreigners leaving us lot to pick up the bill. But don't get me started on that!

 

[Nuttymanxmare]

I found out I had another half cousin when i went back home a month ago..

Aparrently my uncle has an older child that I knew nothing about. (a bit off topic I know)

What makes me mad is the older people in my family knew but I didnt.

Ive never had the opportunity to meet him ect (having said that I probably have but didnt realise it as the IOM is a small place)

 

[PapaFrita]

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I have just found out that I have a half bro & know nothing about him.

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You think that's bad? A friend of mine thought she was an only child.... when her dad became seriously ill, she was told that in fact he had been married before and had had 10 (not a typo; TEN) kids....
You can't IMAGINE the kind of grief this family caused her later on when he had to be looked after at home (not that any of them offered to help)... and these were her parents who witheld the facts from her.

 

[PapaFrita]

I think the donor should have the choice whether to donate anonymously or not... similarly the person receiving the erm.. donation, can choose whether they would like anonymous spunk or stuff that can be traced (for medical reasons or whatever)...
Doesn't seem too complicated to me.

 

[dieseldog]

They should def. be allowed to remain anon. How long before the CSA gets involved when the parents split up and shes suing for money.

 

[SJFAN]

Am I missing something here - I don't see how this topic belongs in Latest News? I think it would be more appropriate in New Lounge.

 

[H's mum]

Yep - couldn't agree with you more - if a man donates sperm... How many off spring can he then help to produce????

It'll get to the point where men can't "afford" to risk donating any sperm for fear of having to pay out for children he unknowingly fathered - and let's face it... it's the people desperately wanting children who need his sperm... why would they feel it necessary to know who it is? Surely that defeats the object somewhat?
Kate x

 

[runaway]

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Am I missing something here - I don't see how this topic belongs in Latest News? I think it would be more appropriate in New Lounge.

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It belongs in here I believe seen as the decription for this area is : Discuss the latest news, both equestrian and current affairs

This specific issue has recently been on the news so would assume this makes it current affairs?

 

[SJFAN]

Right - I'd not heard the issue discussed recently. My own view is that anonymous donation is a problem insofar as that it adds to the risk of any offspring in blissful ignorance later having sexual relationships with partners they are related to. This is potentially harmful genetically for the children born of such relationships.

 

[Sooty]

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Am I missing something here - I don't see how this topic belongs in Latest News? I think it would be more appropriate in New Lounge.

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Does it really matter??? There is a post about dogs in the soapbox you might like to turn your attention to...

 

[Sooty]

Tricky one. I can see why sperm donors want to remain anonymous, although unless there is a financial incentive I cannot see why anyone would wish to be a donor in the first place. However, from the health angle I can see why it might be necessary to be able to trace a father. I don't see why whoever runs the sperm bank cannot act as an intermediary in that case, and find out the required information and pass it on. There is no need for anyone who is conceived using donated sperm to find out who their father is, however I do think it must be a hard thing to learn to live with.

 

[madabout2]

Yes but how many fathers/mothers (not to be sexist) are absentee anyway. ANd a lot of these illnesses we all worry about were not known about say 3 generations ago.

I vote for anonymity! What about egg donation is that the same?

 

[SJFAN]

Problems caused by in-breeding have been known about for many generations.

 

[Tia]

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There is a post about dogs in the soapbox you might like to turn your attention to...


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*chuckles*