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Hoping he is soon fixed and we can see him back at his magnificent best. So sad to watch him run and not romp home.
 
No racing on TV today. What happened?

Not a great time for Henderson yard, with Long Run fading towards the end yesterday in the King George.
 
I just watched my Sky+ Racing UK. He pulled up very suddenly and has an irregular heartbeat. Sounds like he is off to Newmarket tomorrow to see the cardio. Nicky Henderson seemed to think (and would probably know) it is what Denman had.
 
BG has said he felt the horse shortening his stride so pulled him up, he was examined by 2 vets who both said irregular heartbeat, whether this is because of a problem with his heart or a virus no one can say for sure until his appointment tomorrow.

NHs horses are running a bit hit and miss and the fact that SS missed his last race because of a dirty scope does make you wonder if this is the case.

I just hope its quickly resolved and we get to see him again back to his very best.
 
SS is off to Rossdales this morning for a thorough check over. Hope it goes ok. I am amazed by the conspiracy theories about him pulling up yesterday as part of a betting scam. All the best SS
 
From racing Post website......

SPRINTER SACRE has an appointment with heart specialist Celia Marr at Rossdales veterinary surgeons in Newmarket this morning that could determine his future after an unbeaten run of ten sensational chase victories came to a dramatic end when he was pulled up with five fences still to jump in the williamhill.com Desert Orchid Chase.

An irregular heartbeat was diagnosed after Nicky Henderson’s seven-time Grade 1 winner, sent off at 2-9 to take care of five rivals on Friday, was to general disbelief pulled up abruptly by Barry Geraghty after uncharacteristically sticky jumps at both the sixth and seventh fences in a race won by Sire De Grugy.

Speaking on the Morning Line, Henderson said: “He left here at 6am this morning to go to Newmarket for electrocardiogram tests [at 10am]. He ate up last night; he wanted his breakfast and he's sound.

“This is a clinical situation, not a physical problem. We hope to know more today and will keep everyone informed.”

Bryndu
 
Bryndu, I too watched Morning Line. Thanks for that, a clear explanation from NH. It will be interesting to see if medication can stay within the doping rules, and allow the great horse to continue, or if his days of major exertion, are over.

Alec.
 
An excellent bit of horsemanship by BJ. I watched the race on RUK and you really would have been hard pushed to see anything go wrong. Just goes to show how well these jockeys know the horses and what they should be feeling. Fingers crossed for a successful recovery for this beautiful horse.
 
Alec Swan said:
Bryndu, I too watched Morning Line. Thanks for that, a clear explanation from NH. It will be interesting to see if medication can stay within the doping rules, and allow the great horse to continue, or if his days of major exertion, are over.

Alec.
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Yep Alec....hope so.
I had a horse in a similar situation and it turned out to be a virus. 18 months off and the horse was back as new.....so everything crossed for the boy.
Bryndu
 
Alec Swan said:
Bryndu, I too watched Morning Line. Thanks for that, a clear explanation from NH. It will be interesting to see if medication can stay within the doping rules, and allow the great horse to continue, or if his days of major exertion, are over.

Alec.
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You aren't allowed to run a horse on any form of 'medication.' Anything but 'normal feed and hay' aren't allowed to be in the horses system on race day, so even cortaflex etc isn't really allowed.

It would have to be medication he could eventually come off if he were to race again.
 
EmmyMD said:
You aren't allowed to run a horse on any form of 'medication.' Anything but 'normal feed and hay' aren't allowed to be in the horses system on race day, so even cortaflex etc isn't really allowed.

It would have to be medication he could eventually come off if he were to race again.
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You can run horses on certain medications. Most anti-biotics that do not contain penecilin can be in the system, supplements such as cortaflex, joint powders, digestive aids etc are also allowed to be in the system provided that they do not contain banned substances.

Basically anything that will improve or impair the horse from running its true race are banned. General, low level maintenance care - lubrication so to speak - are indeed allowed.

But whatever you do - don't feed the horse a Mars Bar!!!
 
EKW said:
You can run horses on certain medications. Most anti-biotics that do not contain penecilin can be in the system, supplements such as cortaflex, joint powders, digestive aids etc are also allowed to be in the system provided that they do not contain banned substances.

Basically anything that will improve or impair the horse from running its true race are banned. General, low level maintenance care - lubrication so to speak - are indeed allowed.

But whatever you do - don't feed the horse a Mars Bar!!!
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Racing doesn't have a list of banned substances. It simply states in the rules that 'We don't allow anything to be given to the horse on raceday other than food and water, which must be fed in the normal manner (i.e. in a bucket, as opposed to in a syringe or any other means)' If you have too much time on your hand the BHA rule book is about a billion pages long and all 180000000 sections of rule C, which is the one regarding feeding makes for thrilling reading.
 
While the BHA don't have a list of prohibited substances but they do have database of about 2,000 substances they test for. There are exceptions like wormers and most antibiotics (not procaine penicillin).
 
How do you mean "fixed itself"? Do you have other news? I thought that the report from Rossdales was that he had a heart problem, and that was yesterday, I think!

Alec.
 
Alec Swan said:
How do you mean "fixed itself"? Do you have other news? I thought that the report from Rossdales was that he had a heart problem, and that was yesterday, I think!

Alec.
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Today's news is that it has fixed itself and he's going home and starting work again.....I assume being monitored.
 
bonny said:
Is anybody else beginning to wonder about this whole affair and if there's more to it than meets the eye ?
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There is nothing odd about it. The horse was trained and prepared for the day. The jockey knows him well and was quick to stop him, a move that very likely saved his life.

The condition is common in humans and often rights itself. If it does not medical intervention is needed where the heart is stopped and started again.

I just hope the magnificent horse makes a full recovery. The best vets will be guiding Nicky Henderson and one would hope the owners are not greedy people intent on getting him back on the racecourse at any cost. I do hope he does not meet his maker on the racecourse. He owes no one anything.
 
AdorableAlice said:
There is nothing odd about it. The horse was trained and prepared for the day. The jockey knows him well and was quick to stop him, a move that very likely saved his life.

The condition is common in humans and often rights itself. If it does not medical intervention is needed where the heart is stopped and started again.

I just hope the magnificent horse makes a full recovery. The best vets will be guiding Nicky Henderson and one would hope the owners are not greedy people intent on getting him back on the racecourse at any cost. I do hope he does not meet his maker on the racecourse. He owes no one anything.
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Still not entirely sure, time will tell I guess but it seems odd to me ....plus the obvious answer to your post is that he's a horse, not a human and their hearts are different and why was he pulled up so quickly if he felt wrong and then trotted back to the stables ?
 
bonny said:
Today's news is that it has fixed itself and he's going home and starting work again.....I assume being monitored.
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Crikey!

AdorableAlice said:
There is nothing odd about it. The horse was trained and prepared for the day. The jockey knows him well and was quick to stop him, a move that very likely saved his life.

The condition is common in humans and often rights itself. If it does not medical intervention is needed where the heart is stopped and started again.

I just hope the magnificent horse makes a full recovery. The best vets will be guiding Nicky Henderson and one would hope the owners are not greedy people intent on getting him back on the racecourse at any cost. I do hope he does not meet his maker on the racecourse. He owes no one anything.
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If that's the case, then presumably he can continue with his training regime. I must say that it does sound a bit odd, but we'll see.

I must say, all credit to Barry G for acting as promptly as he did, it rather makes a nonsense of the claim that the horse isn't at the centre of everyone's best intent. Clearly it is!

Alec.
 
bonny said:
Still not entirely sure, time will tell I guess but it seems odd to me ....plus the obvious answer to your post is that he's a horse, not a human and their hearts are different and why was he pulled up so quickly if he felt wrong and then trotted back to the stables ?
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Because you cannot just stop a galloping racehorse unless it has broken down. No matter how exhausted they finish they are always kept moving. The jockey would have felt the horse falter, possibly gurgle or gasp. Horses have the same treatment for irregular heart beats as we do. Denman for instance.
 
AdorableAlice said:
Because you cannot just stop a galloping racehorse unless it has broken down. No matter how exhausted they finish they are always kept moving. The jockey would have felt the horse falter, possibly gurgle or gasp. Horses have the same treatment for irregular heart beats as we do. Denman for instance.
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Denman is the only one we can name I suspect....and I wasn't asking about him being pulled up but why if he felt so wrong he was trotted back to the stables ?
 
bonny said:
Denman is the only one we can name I suspect....and I wasn't asking about him being pulled up but why if he felt so wrong he was trotted back to the stables ?
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Were you riding the horse? No, so maybe best leave decisions to the professionals who ride and look after this horse.

Why do so many people seem to think that there always has to be some consipirisy going on when a well known and fancied horse runs badly or is pulled up.
 
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