Stable vises and Price question??

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I'm not selling my horse and i'm not looking for a price, but was wondering what the price reduction would be because he cribs.

So he's 8 yo (late starter) ISH with great breeding. doing very well discovery/Intro with much potential to go on to better things. Needs work on the flat but still does a decent test. Fantastic hunter over ant country and a gentleman in all ways.

Just wondered peeps?
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reckon it depends on the person - personally if the horse was wat i wanted in every other respect i buy maybe a little lower than wat he would be worth if he didnt crib - eg if a horse was worth £6000 but cribbed id pay prob £5500 for it
 
It's such a difficult one. Some people don't mind a vice at all and would only want a small reduction and others wouldn't touch the horse for love nor money.

Personally the only way I would buy a horse with a vice like cribbing would be if it was very proven in the competition sphere and at a seriously reduced price (I'm thinking half market value)
 
Personally I wouldnt buy a horse with this vice, however the only way i could be persuaded would be for the horse to have a proven competition record at a decent level and for it to be about 1/2 the market value.
 
As said I think you'd be looking at a considerable drop in price. My mare has sweet itch and I know this will considerably reduce her value
 
I would not buy a horse to sell with a vice, but tbh if it was for myself and ticked all the right boxes in all other respects I'd actually think it a good way off getting a horse that i like for less than it's worth - if that makes sense? lol
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I would never disregard any vice outright as most can be controlled and managed, and i kind of think what the ponios do in their own time is their business!
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Thought i might have a go at actually answering your question this time, lol, personally if your horse is good at something (or several things), I would not reduce your price dramatically, maybe by £500 or something as another poster suggested - as there are many people who won't be put off - if you have confidence in your horses abilities and are honest he will sell i'm sure.
I think it is important to think that would YOU pay that for him - as you know him very well and the other thing how quickly you want to sell (hypothetically of course)!
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Thanks guys. I was just wondering whats peoples views were. I don't want to be thinking he's worth X amount if he'd actually never sell because he cribs!
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I suppose in an ideal world I wouldn't buy horses with vices - but at the end of the day I don't normally have much money to spend and you get get a nicer horse for your money if you get one with a vice!
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Personally I couldnt give a flying fig about cribbing/wind sucking etc. I have had many, & touch wood never had a colic or poor doer. Or any other veterinary problem due to their habit. If it was a middle of the rd horse then probably I wouldnt buy it with a vice. If it is a proven competition horse then I wouldnt even consider asking for a reduction in price because of a vice. I also believe that what the horse does in it's own time is it's own business. As long as they can come up with the goods for the job I want it's OK by me.
 
Ditto Freshman. Can't believe how many wouldn't touch a horse with a vice. None of mine have vices but it wouldn't bother me much if they did.
 
My boy cribs and thats why i could afford him. He had a proven competition record at pre novice and he was about half the price of most horses with his record. The cribbing isnt bad and it doesnt bother me in the slightest.
 
OMG i can't believe all you people think cribbing is a bad thing. It's a habit thats all. It does the horses no harm at all. It's never actually been proven to cause any harm.
I know of a showjumping pony which is a constant windsucker/cribber and when it came up for sale people were queing up to buy it. Most of your top showjumpers and dressage horses have vices because of their hectic life style. I bet if you had the chance of a cribber nowing that it could do it's job you would buy it no matter what.
 
Yep, ditto Freshman. I'm not at all shocked to hear how many people wouldn't touch one that cribbed/windsucked as my friend is selling one at the moment and it really puts people off, even though it's a cracking horse in every other respect.

Hector did it from the day he came in from the field to be backed, but it doesn't bother me. I bought a miracle collar for him but didn't have the heart to put it on him (it probably would have stressed him even more)!
 
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OMG i can't believe all you people think cribbing is a bad thing. It's a habit thats all. It does the horses no harm at all. It's never actually been proven to cause any harm.


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The horse wears down his teeth (dentists = money) and swallows air which can lead to inappropriate digestion and colic (vet = money)
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And also some equine insurance companies won't provide insurance for cribbers.
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I personally would not buy a horse with a vice such as this, as i'm not willing to risk facing potential problems.
But i can understand why people would and there are plenty of horses out there that do very well and have vices but just not mine!
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It has not been proved that it causes colic. The air does not go into the gut and not all horses teeth wear down it depends on how often the crib. some only crib after a feed and that's it.
 
You can get various herbs and digestive things that can help in some cases. I have heard of one or two complete cures, although haven't had to deal with it personally.
 
I'm with Parissiene Girl - I wouldn't buy one with vices either regardless of cost - if you have to be on a livery yard others will object (strongly) I know I would if something with vices came to live next door to me!
 
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