Stallion Livery.

Sparkles

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Bit of a public enquiry just wanting feedback! :)


How much interest would there be for livery catering entires and/or youngstock?

And if so, what facilities would you be looking for in an ideal world/yard, what kind of livery [DIY/Part or Full] and what would you be looking at price wise?

[South West if location helps]


BLT's for anyone! :)
 
I think you would have customers for both. I know my trainer hasn't always found it easy to find livery with her Stallion, I think some people think that they require outrageous facilities. All he needs is a lone paddock with modified (higher) fencing. That said, he has now made friends with a gelding on the yard and they are out together. The paddock with the high fencing is only used when a mare is in season.

As far as young stock goes, the only concern that I would have would be making sure he had others to play with, elders to learn from and enough land to be out all year round.
 
Thankyou, echoed my thoughts too :)

Only mentioned on behalf of friend, who currently has entires herself [have single or company turnout with a couple of other geldings, dependant on each ones needs] and enough acreage [some 100 acres+] which has youngstock on it [weanlings upwards] with her gelding for 'lead'. Has extra space on the yard, so was wondering whether it would be a worthwhile thing advertising or not :) Only crux, is she has no school currently [though future plan to have one], but miles of endless private hacking with XC fences put in round.
 
I would say it sounds pretty fabulous! No doubt at all that you would get customers. Soooo many yards turn away colts, stallions and young stock!
 
I think there is a general lack of stallion livery esp diy or part, many owners either have their own yard/land or are happy to pay full livery at a stud. Around me most yards have a no entire policy, possibly yearlings excluded. I'd say its definately worth looking into but im not sure if your insurance would be higher. As above, higher fencing and if possible backed up with electric fencing.

As for youngstock I think it would be fairly easy to set this up, either if you had lots of land or large pens.

Good luck if you decide to go ahead
 
For the youngstock, she either has large shared pens/or separate stables with daily turnout, or further up the farm has various fields (smallest 11 acres...some 40 acres+...has two which are 90acres which she has in the summer [!] ) with her own youngstock in who just live out 24/7, with haylage out. Or has fields which she has free-choice barns in which she just keeps filled with deep litter straw and haylage and lets them go in or out as they please, unless it's terrible weather or they need to stay in, in which case she just closes the barns up.

I shall let her know...I told her to go for it if she can, as having colts myself, know the taboo which comes with them!
 
I would have been interested.. My 2yo had to be cut for that reason..

I would definitely be interested if I didn't have my own place.. Whereabouts in the SW is your friend? It sounds ideal..
 
Stallion livery is in short supply but there is a reason and that is you do need good facilities, in separate well fenced paddocks and stabling where other liveries don't waft their ' squirting ' mares past all the time.
There needs to be experienced staff and an understanding , that although the particular stallion is soo good and well behaved ( heard that more times than I can count) they ARE entire and have to be treated with repect especially in an environment where there are lots of comings and goings.
Stallions like to take ownership of their environment and are quite competitive with other stallions.
I've also had more trouble with stallion taking a fancy to geldings that mares! And only certain geldings,
It is therefore an area that there could be more provision but it does need careful management to keep horses happy healthy and safe.
 
THe big thing for me would be suitable turnout - if a yard takes a stallion they are usually stuck inside which is unfair to the horse.
 
The young stock would be good :D

I have a six month colt running with our lot. He'll have to be cut before Spring if he's to stay here (before the flies and before any seasons). If I knew of a good place to send him, where he could run with other youngsters, but have older ones to teach him manners, then I'd be tempted to keep him enite for another year. His bits will be off at some point as I have no need nor desire for an entire.
 
Thankyou.

It's solely her own entires there at the moment and some youngstock, of her own. It's not set up as a livery yard, just her sole use yard, but has around 5 empty stables in the stallion bay and well over excess of a 100 acres, and no mares kept on the yard, just another gelding who goes out with some of her ones for company that go out in company, one or two stay in single turnout, but the rest of hers live together fine as have done since youngsters. 24/7 turnout is available all year round. All the hacking is private round the farm, so no other riders on the premises, other than herself.

She'll have mares in over Spring and summer for stud, but they're run out with a single stallion in fields far off from the yard and in no contact/distance of causing a problem.


She's Dorset/Somerset area. :)
 
I can cater for both stallions and youngstock, and I have to say I do get a lot of enquiries.

I have a seperate yard for the stallions, which used to be a "bull pen" so is surrounded by high concrete walls topped with steel bars. This works really well as it means stallions can be tied on the yard to be tacked up or shod etc. with no worry about mares wandering around.
 
i would be highly interested- there is such bad stigma attached with entires- i have a 18 month old colt who is a lamb with both testies decended. People avoid me like the plague when i mention he is a colt- sad as he is a rescue has very rare lines in his breed and was gifted to me with very short notice. Please let me know if this becomes a reality Ted would love a new place to live!
 
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