Stallion suggestions please (showjumpers)

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for this mare: (Lupicor x Furore x Topas) Minka damline. (The foal got a 1st prem at the futurity in 09 and is by Coriano Z - recent pic of him is as a rising 2yo)

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It really depends on what you want to improve or change. There were lots of superb showjumping stallions at last week's stallion show. Balloon is a super mover with an incredible jump. He's modern, leggy and IMO needs a mare who is strong through the loin. Extreme of Cavallini is a similar type to Balloon and very talented. Typhoon S falls into this type too.

Then there is Landpirol who is a big, athletic more old fashioned type of horse who has jumped at GP internationally as well as doing advanced dressage. He is BIG but very handsome and light on his feet.

Or there was Crusador (by Cassini II) who was possibly the best jumper there, endless scope but a very scratchy mover.

Or if you like French lines there is Necker Platiere. A bigger framed horse with a big jump.

Or Billy Mexico, all round curves and cheekiness. Or his sire Cevin Z who is a bigger stamp of a stallion. Or Billy Congo.

Or then there are John Whitaker's stallions. Peppermill and Argento. Both handsome powerhouses with massive jumps.

In the end it is all down to knowing your mare, personal preference and deciding what stamp of horse is your favourite. Its a good idea to go and visit the stallions on your shortlist too. They are often very different in the flesh to how they appear in photos and videos.
 
LOL! I just wanted to see some different ideas... :)

I've been considering El Thuder, Tangelo van Der Zuthoove, Wolkenderry, Aerobic from Nijhof

She's very sharp so need to have good temperaments and rideability, would like to add height too as she's 16hh.
 
Brendon's stud's stallions have fabulous temperaments. And they all have good competition records.

You're just going to have to make a shortlist and go stud visiting. Its that time of year. :)
 
What a lovely mare! There are so many good SJ stallions out there, I wouldn't know where to begin. looking at the photos from Addington the ones that cought my eye were Legrande, Billy Mexico and Balloon. If you go abroard then my two favorites are Contendro1 and Balou de Rouet
 
I would take a look at H and Country's coverage of the recent stallion showcase at Addington once they start broadcasting it, there were some truly inspiring stallions there.
I liked two of the Brendon stallions particularly, plus Balloon, Billy Mexico and the chesnut stallion of the Funnel's, his jump was simply amazing, you got the impression he would just keep giving them a foot no matter how high the poles were! (I would have to check my breeding book to see his name sorry, but others more expert will no doubt know).
I would then go and see them in the flesh to see how they would improve your mare, plusd when breeding you have to have your own personal Wow factor I think, which makes your final decision easy.
You should have come to the Showcase, meeting so many stallions in their boxes was such a good experience, nothing pulled faces etc and as someone else has said, vids can be deceiving re build.
Your mare certainly looks worth breeding from too...
 
Balout de Rouet's seem to have a reputation of trainability. Is your mare sharp? what aspects do you want to improve the most. If I were being super critical and splitting hairs, you might want to go for something with a bigger front. Your mare is lovely , let us know what you decide on.
 
Love my Balou du Rouet filly. There are lots of pics on here if you want to have a look. We also have a yearling by Cash Point who has the most fantastic temperament. Cash Point also looked very classy at the Hartpury Stallion Show.
 
I would recomment Verdi for this horse. I've seen these bloodlines matched and that worked out pretty well.
The ones I've seen from Verdi all have a really good character.
Verdi himself is a candidate for the OG in London.
 
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The Brendon stallions are stunning and you would find one to fit any mare in the UK. My personal favourites are Don VHP Z, Warrior, Unbelievable Darco, El Thuder (well all of them really for different reasons).

Balou Du Rouet is a very nice stallion, I have 2 fillies by him and love love love them.
Cash Point is also nice, I have used him too.
 
Thanks for all the replies!

Lots of food for thought - Verdi is an interesting one as I considered him for her 3 years ago but as she was only small and a maiden I wanted a smaller stallion 1st time round. I adore his breeding - Quidam de Revel x Landgraf I x Calypso I. Anyone know anything about his competition record?

I've also had Kannan and Cicero Van Paemel mentioned to me. Kannan's youngsters seem to be doing very well in young horse classes - I don't know much about Cicero.

I do really like El Thuder, I first saw him at his AES grading (he was my favourite of the day!) and have watched him at Scope, ER's Tam was stunning and what a fabulous temperament too.

These are some old pics of her taken in January of her 5th Year but closest thing I have to a conformation shot:
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It also comes down to how much you have to spend on stud fees. I LOVE Cicero...he is a big boy at 16.3 but amazing -stud fee is I think £1100. Verdi...again superb stallion but stud fee is 1250euros. So a lot also comes down to budget as well as what suits your mare.
 
Navalgem said:
Thanks for all the replies!

Lots of food for thought - Verdi is an interesting one as I considered him for her 3 years ago but as she was only small and a maiden I wanted a smaller stallion 1st time round. I adore his breeding - Quidam de Revel x Landgraf I x Calypso I. Anyone know anything about his competition record?
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If all goes well he should be one of the horses for the Netherlands in London 2012.

Verdi is among the group of future championship horses. In his seventh year he made his debut in December 2009 in London already in a 1.60 m test and he finished with Eric van der Vleuten eighth. Of the fourteen Grand Prix he ran last year, he was classified as many as ten times in the top ten
 
I would look at something from Calido on a Lupicor mare, if not the old man himself. I was very impressed with his son Caskmoaker at Sprehe last weekend, and they also have a seriously scopey 3yo grandson called Coupe D'Or who is far better in the flesh than on their DVD and will be a corker in a year or 2. Neither of those two are particuarly big.

Of the stallions here I love Contendros (Contrendo x Drosselklang) as an up and coming star. Cheeky and sharp but a little rubber ball and a pussy cat in the box. Balou of course is everyones favourite, and they have Action breaker this season who has boundless scope.

In the UK I really like the style of Super Trooper, Warrior, Don VHP among others. Very much depends on what you like in a horse yourself.
 
Anne GTI. You seem to be in the know regarding Verdi, so can I ask you if it is the same Verdi that was ridden by Michael V. D Vleuton a few years ago. I am thinking when he was a young rider. If so I seem to remember when I was at Nijhof I was told he had retired at a very young age. Do you know if I am imagining this from my distant past or maybe even different Stallion. I do have a 3yo by him out of a Burrgraaf mare. She is enormous but absolutely delightful to do. Hope you can set the record straight for me.
 
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Anne GTI. You seem to be in the know regarding Verdi, so can I ask you if it is the same Verdi that was ridden by Michael V. D Vleuton a few years ago. I am thinking when he was a young rider. If so I seem to remember when I was at Nijhof I was told he had retired at a very young age. Do you know if I am imagining this from my distant past or maybe even different Stallion. I do have a 3yo by him out of a Burrgraaf mare. She is enormous but absolutely delightful to do. Hope you can set the record straight for me.
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Michael van der Vleuten still rides him. Just last week his father Eric bought part of the stallion. Verdi is now owned by Team Nijhof/Cees v.d. Oetelaar/Eric van der Vleuten. Last time in the ring was 6-2-2011 in Offenburg. He's slowly prepared for the outdoorseason.

I think you confuse Verdi with Padinus. He had been out of competition due to a capped hock. He was well on his way back to full recovery when he had a fatal accident on his way to the tredmill.
 
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I would look at something from Calido on a Lupicor mare, if not the old man himself. I was very impressed with his son Caskmoaker at Sprehe last weekend, and they also have a seriously scopey 3yo grandson called Coupe D'Or who is far better in the flesh than on their DVD and will be a corker in a year or 2. Neither of those two are particuarly big.

Of the stallions here I love Contendros (Contrendo x Drosselklang) as an up and coming star. Cheeky and sharp but a little rubber ball and a pussy cat in the box. Balou of course is everyones favourite, and they have Action breaker this season who has boundless scope.

In the UK I really like the style of Super Trooper, Warrior, Don VHP among others. Very much depends on what you like in a horse yourself.
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I was interested to see your comments on contendros. He too caught my eye on the DVD, looks athletic with an impressive jump. We have a Contendro mare which is so talented. We were thinking of putting another 3 yr old to Contendro, but Contendros's stud fee looks more realistic for an unproven mare.
 
Christine48 - he is well worth a gamble IMHO as he is really coming on with his new rider and I think will be aimed at the Bundeschampionate next season. He just has a lot of quality and personality, a rela rubber ball. I wouldnt use him on a quirky mare as he is already quite clever enough, but at both stallion shows over the last 2 weekends, and in the training beforehand he really impressed me, and I already liked him from seeing him around the yard
 
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