STOLEN ON BREEDING LOAN MO ARAAN BEY.

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MO Araan Bey was stolen on breeding loan. He is a black arab stallion, would be around 15.1/2hh now... any information would be a great help. Thank you.
 
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Equine Details - MO ARAAN BEY
Date of Birth 10-Apr-2003
Gender Male
Colour Black
Height
Sire Name R ALI BEY
Dam Name SHANAARA
Breed Purebred
Submitted by Arab Horse Society
Studbook/Section Arab
Birth Country United Kingdom

1 progeny listed on passport 2010

Stolen on loan ... When .. date ?
Last known to be in what part of the UK ? and when .. date ?
Reported to the police ? Crime reference number ?

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Hi thanks for help. Alliya. I believe it was around 4 years ago, after a while a dealer( did not know was dealer until he did not return our horses) anyway, the dealer Steve something said that he would use Araan on his welsh mares to produce a few show ponies, then when the breeding loan was up like you should... He said he'd return the three horses that were out on breeding loan, those horses being Araan's mother Shanaraa, and Azam. After quite a few months of asking, telling, etc etc where are my horses, they were suppose to be back 2 months ago, he would not answer. A year after this, a letter came in the post stating that this lady in Ireland had bought Azam, and told what she was doing with him. And asked for transfer of ownership. As you can imagen this came as a suprise as Azam was suppose to be with Steve, also breeding show ponies. With Araan, the situation is.. He was put out on breeding loan as owner fell on hard times. Again after asking Steve where the horses were, there was still no answer. A year or so later, there was a letter through from AHS stating Araan had bred a foal, and it was being registered. So someone also would of licensed him as a stallion, for the offspring to be registered as pure bred. Funny thing being, Araan's owner never got and paper work though to sign for the stallion license. The AHS had done a transfer of ownership on this horse, without the owners permission or signature. They claimed they didn't have the owners address or telephone number. 2 years later the owner got though a letter from AHS saying do you want to put your stallions in the 2012 year book? Now, according to them the owner did not have ownership over Araan, and they did not have the address of the owner, and the owner had moved house since then, so how did they manage to send those papers to the owner if they didn't have any contact details of the owner? When the owner of Araan said to them, hang on a minute, you need to stick to one story, either i don't own him or i do. Infact I do because you never sent me any transfer of ownership forms, and even if you did I wouldn't of signed them because he was on breeding loan. They then said that they cannot get involved with owners dispute. Fact of the matter being, they've committed fraud, as they've let a transfer of ownership go by without the owners permission or signature.
 
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Sammie&Spoilt said:
Hi thanks for help. Alliya. I believe it was around 4 years ago, after a while a dealer( did not know was dealer until he did not return our horses) anyway, the dealer Steve something said that he would use Araan on his welsh mares to produce a few show ponies, then when the breeding loan was up like you should... He said he'd return the three horses that were out on breeding loan, those horses being Araan's mother Shanaraa, and Azam. After quite a few months of asking, telling, etc etc where are my horses, they were suppose to be back 2 months ago, he would not answer. A year after this, a letter came in the post stating that this lady in Ireland had bought Azam, and told what she was doing with him. And asked for transfer of ownership. As you can imagen this came as a suprise as Azam was suppose to be with Steve, also breeding show ponies. With Araan, the situation is.. He was put out on breeding loan as owner fell on hard times. Again after asking Steve where the horses were, there was still no answer. A year or so later, there was a letter through from AHS stating Araan had bred a foal, and it was being registered. So someone also would of licensed him as a stallion, for the offspring to be registered as pure bred. Funny thing being, Araan's owner never got and paper work though to sign for the stallion license. The AHS had done a transfer of ownership on this horse, without the owners permission or signature. They claimed they didn't have the owners address or telephone number. 2 years later the owner got though a letter from AHS saying do you want to put your stallions in the 2012 year book? Now, according to them the owner did not have ownership over Araan, and they did not have the address of the owner, and the owner had moved house since then, so how did they manage to send those papers to the owner if they didn't have any contact details of the owner? When the owner of Araan said to them, hang on a minute, you need to stick to one story, either i don't own him or i do. Infact I do because you never sent me any transfer of ownership forms, and even if you did I wouldn't of signed them because he was on breeding loan. They then said that they cannot get involved with owners dispute. Fact of the matter being, they've committed fraud, as they've let a transfer of ownership go by without the owners permission or signature.
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I hope you sort it all out
 
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Thank you. I hope it all gets sorted out aswell. It's such a big mess. Thankyou to everybody thats being really co-operative. It seems the breed society he's registered with really is going down the drain. Haha. Just want to know that he's safe, and things.
 
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The very, VERY first thing you need to do is report it to the Police. It may be that they're not interested, they MAY say "it's a civil mater..." BUT without a crime number, MHOL and all the other great organisations who do a fantastic job helping us locate lost horses, well they won't be able to do anything without the cime number.

It sounds like the AHS have been a bit lax with their procedures but at least you know where one is!
 
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