Student protests and police horses

...You're seriously getting all het up about that? Come on, he smacked it twice on it's rug, and it didn't look overly hard. There's bigger things to worry about these days, methinks! :rolleyes:
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-11829989
Please watch this video. The horse closest to the camera. Watch what happens when it runs back to the police line. Officer draws his baton, he has an unruly crowd to deal with.

Instead, he hits his horse several times, with the baton.

This is surely not acceptable behaviour???

Now do keep up, there is a very long thread about this already in which many people (me included) have concluded that the officer did not make contact with the horse.

As I posted on there, when my dad (a copper) was trained with his baton, he was told that he was only to use the most forceful blow it can deliver onto a person's thigh - because any bone smaller than the femur would be shattered. I post this to demonstrate what a serious bit of kit this is - if you walloped a horse with it, you would get one hell of a reaction and would possibly seriously damage the horse. I don't see any evidence on that video which convinces me that the officer hit the horse.
 
Just logged on, before I saw the other thread!!
I didn't see the other officers hitting their horses, looked like bad temper to me.
 
The horse obviously bolted back from the front line, seems to me the policeman was reminding it that that's not acceptable. I used my whip just this evening when my horse spinned and bolted in the school, to get him to go forward again, problem with that??
 
I do think he hit the horse. I could maybe understand why, a scared horse running into a group of people needs to be dealth with strongly in a situation like that. However if the horse was panicked by something like that, then it should not have been there. It is obviously not ready for such a dramatic situation and requires more training. Yes the flares are scary (stupid horrible people) but a police horse should be able to deal with that situation and move away without being in a panic like this one.
 
OK OP, next time there is a riot involving several hundred people and flying explosives, you can have a go at keeping a lid on it...:rolleyes:
 
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why why why why ?????? wanders off banging her head ......
 
the link wont play for me but read a few threads on here and other forums - ok horse spoooked he appears to hit horse - i ask who was there to witness what happened - read various posts explaining about baton etc and personally having seen first hand the trust these police have in thier horses and vice versa its a moment caught out of context - let it lie cause police horses and riders are the best trained ever and mmmm im thinking gangs of prowling yobs ( NOT STUDENTS JUST YOBS) i would panick for me and my horse thumbs up to our great mounted police x
 
I was a Public Monitor of Police horses & Dogs for the Avon & Somerset Constabulary for a year or two. The police standards of care and commitment to their horses were impressive and I have no reason to think things have changed. The reason he used his baton on the horse was because the horse was about to career into a group of his colleagues, and he needed to take very decisive action. And you don';t carry a schooling whip in the police!
 
Thank God that neither the Officer or his horse were hurt or worse in the riots today,Instead of worrying about the Officer reprimanding his horse just stop and think what they were facing,either or both could have been killed in that melee today by moronic layabouts with nothing better to do. IF the officer was over zealous then i think it is understandable given the cicumstances.Thank God for our brave police force and their horses and dogs.
 
Ummmm, you DO NOT hit the thigh...a fractured femur is GBH and is life threatening due to proximity of the femoral artery.
The Modified Lamb Method of using a batton (what we were trained in and most UK police are trained in) uses strikes from wrist to elbow and knee to ankle in the most part. Strikes to the rest of the body and head are STRONGLY discouraged. (but in desperation, all bets are off)
 
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