Stupid people showing welsh ponies!!!! Rant rant rant!!!!!!

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A girl local to me has decided shes going to take her section c to a show this weekend.

Saw a status on FB "Feeding my girl more and not going out till saturday... shes getting naughtier and naughtier" so I asked why is she feeding her more and not going out... reply was "more energy for show"

No you mean your gonna send your pony crazy by feeding it too much and not letting it out??????? IDIOTS!!!!!!

This is why I hate showing my section D in welsh classes becasue the majority are just dangerous!!! Gives a bad names to those who want to be safe and sensible!!!!!!!!!
 
seems like she is lacking brain cells, why on earth anyone would want to deal with a pent up, over fed excited pony at a show I don't know.
 
What an idiot!!

As Ive just bought a new sec D I went to watch midland welsh ponies and cobs at Solihull on Sunday and I must say nearly everyone was wonderfully behaved :)

I'm hoping to take my mare to a show on Sunday. So I hope she is not in my class!!
 
Lol. Here's me with a Welsh D on the lawn atm because he was full of beans after his 2nd night in a stable (2nd night in his life that is). He's had nothing but hay and a little haylege, but came out of the stable like zeberdee yesterday and today. God knows what he'd be like if I'd FED him.

Another 10 mile drive should settle him...
 
There are tricks to rile up a welsh for showing that don't involve locking it in a stable feeding it oats. This girl clearly had NO idea how a lot of welsh people do it.

If you look at top flight welsh showing the ponies are firey BUT 90% are very well behaved and put all of that fire into their movement and presence.

It's the ones that have seen this but don't know how to replicate it are the dangerous ones with out of control ponies.

I had a C mare to show a few years ago and she was never out of the top 2, including medaling, and she was out 24/7 and only came in overnight the day before the show to keep her clean.
 
EKW said:
It's the ones that have seen this but don't know how to replicate it are the dangerous ones with out of control ponies.
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Does anyone have any words of wisdom please? I know its not something you learn overnight of course but any tips for us who want to do this properly would be amazingly helpful :)
 
I couldn't believe it! I remember when I was at the same livery as her and she had a bucket of food (majority oats) and it's was full to the brim! My baby only has handful of chop and a handful of mix and a scoop of suregrow!

Also... On FB, I've been seen 1 2 yo section d being backed and ridden on the road and the same girl with her sec c 2yo aswell sitting on hers and riding it around what the hell is wrong with these people?!?!
 
EKW said:
There are tricks to rile up a welsh for showing that don't involve locking it in a stable feeding it oats. This girl clearly had NO idea how a lot of welsh people do it.

If you look at top flight welsh showing the ponies are firey BUT 90% are very well behaved and put all of that fire into their movement and presence.

It's the ones that have seen this but don't know how to replicate it are the dangerous ones with out of control ponies.

I had a C mare to show a few years ago and she was never out of the top 2, including medaling, and she was out 24/7 and only came in overnight the day before the show to keep her clean.
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90% is very debateable depending on the area you live in. There are many who show their welsh professionally and without having to use any 'tricks'. Unfortunately there are also many who's tricks include lunging whips with bags attached (often blatently with no concern for others), gingering up, overfeeding with hot cereals etc etc.
Welsh cobs are magnificent to watch but by the nature of the breed it inevitably attracts folk who quite frankly shouldn't be within a mile of any horse.
 
Someone I knew had qualified for a local championship in the ridden hunter class. The pony was a little bit lazy (and she wasn't the most experienced rider) so she kept it in and fed it competition mix to whizz it up a bit. Unfortunately the exact reverse happened as a few minutes into the ring and it tied up spectacularly so they had wasted the entry fee, the cost of transport, all the effort to get it ready and got a vets bill to boot. Whoops!
 
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Someone I knew had qualified for a local championship in the ridden hunter class. The pony was a little bit lazy (and she wasn't the most experienced rider) so she kept it in and fed it competition mix to whizz it up a bit. Unfortunately the exact reverse happened as a few minutes into the ring and it tied up spectacularly so they had wasted the entry fee, the cost of transport, all the effort to get it ready and got a vets bill to boot. Whoops!
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Muppits!!
 
I understand Rant......I have a Section D and used to show him in D classes with success at county level (mostly does veteran now) He is a good doer and as well as showing and M&M workers he has done x country dressage and sj. He is fit but not fat....I rarely show in D classes now because several times I have been told he needs more condition! I have a welsh cross arab who had laminitis and I am super careful on how much weight my horses annd ponies carry. My vet assures me that my D is absolutely perfect weight. He is pretty chunky with great cresty neck most people when they first see him think he maybe entire.....but still several different judges told me he needs more weight on. It seems to be that a lot of the winning Ds at the moment had a lot of fatty deposits all over and are frankly not fit. I would like to see them do a 10 mile fun ride or a x country course.....
 
It's when you stand next to the ring at county shows and hear them struggling to breathe after one lap of canter, and it's not just the heavy weight cobs! You can be sure the fatties will win or be placed. Btw I don't show so no axe to grind just hate seeing unfit horses.
 
This is why I never show anymore, the amount of idiots there are and pony abuse going on, all for the sake of a rosette... I know some people who show and show very well with fit healthy ponies, but as for the rest...
 
I know someone who had her D stallion 'gelded' under GA leaving the tissue that secretes the testosterone so effectively it was similar to a vasectomy , it cost £1000 several years ago and was very proud of it. The reason being so it would still have stallion tendencies for showing. unfortunately she no longer rode and was s*** scared of it so it was an expensive field ornament.
I think its a similar mentality to people who buy aggressive breeds for show but have no idea how to handle them.
 
Accident waiting to happen. Some horses are naturally over excited when they are taken away from home for shows and things so why make the matter worse. and as previously pointed out just not welshes it can happen all over the horse world. Just a lack of common sense lol
 
It makes it hard work for us people who are actually trying really hard with theirlo use like myself to keep them safe and sound and keep condition without fattening them up! Luckily my pony is getting nicer and nicer by the miniute and it's nothing but a handful of chop mix and sure grow, I don't need to fatten him up thank god and we are still doing great at shows :)

But when you come up against a stupid overweight off its head Stallion and then lose, it really puts you down :(
 
Not to forget the loons that come running into the show ring waving a schooling whip with a Pom Pom on the end nearly knocking me over and scarring the living daylights out of my baby.... THIS was in a YOUNGSTOCK class!!! What the hell!!!!
 
Carrots&Mints said:
Not to forget the loons that come running into the show ring waving a schooling whip with a Pom Pom on the end nearly knocking me over and scarring the living daylights out of my baby.... THIS was in a YOUNGSTOCK class!!! What the hell!!!!
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Welsh trot into the ring for welsh classes. Not for mixed M&M and occasionally some judges don't allow it. If you don't want people trotting in past you then go into the ring last. It also depends where in the country you are as to how frequently this happens.
 
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Welsh trot into the ring for welsh classes. Not for mixed M&M and occasionally some judges don't allow it. If you don't want people trotting in past you then go into the ring last. It also depends where in the country you are as to how frequently this happens.
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Yes this was just a mixed m&m youngstock class, and the judge wasnt even watching! loonatics
 
The girl.clearly hasn't got a single brain cell, she's asking for trouble.
Our Section A is very well behaved, he's out on grass and in at night on hay and a tiny handful of super light chaff. I'd rather have manners and safe pony than a red ribbon...
If any horse is badly behaved to the point of dangerous in a show ring then they are asked to leave straight away. It's not just welshies either, or showing for a matter of fact, I've seen kids show jumping ponies being anchored down by two big men just so they can get the kid on as it's going into the ring. It happens through all disciplines unfortunately.
I love watching the Welsh cob classes but I hate all the horrible tricks of the trade that happen in showing :(
 
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I posted recently having seen someone 'preparing' their foals for a show, chasing the poor little things about like crazy. Really upset me. That is no sort of way to handle a pony.
 
There's a lot of Welsh showing in Essex, the 'proper' Welsh showers are a whole different world to the normal horse world! 'B's arnt shown in this way but at the Welsh shows we took our colt to seeing the A,C,Ds done was eye opening! He wasn't mine but incidently he was fed plenty, kept in a lot and rugged, and unbeaten ;) Got gelded and went to live in a big herd and became very average, weedy even, though no doubt happier!
 
The people like this are in the minority, definitely at higher levels. It's a bit of a waste of time showing a Welsh gelding in hand anyway, unless there are specific gelding classes.
 
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