Sub solar abscess - sole drops off

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I thought I'd post this mainly for reference as while looking for information on sub solar abscesses, I couldn't find much.

These photos were taken today. Horse has had ongoing lameness issues, originally diagnosed as pus in foot, then changed to soft tissue damage, then changed to joint problems.

About 4 weeks ago she came in again, on 3 legs, trimmer due and assured us he felt it was an abscess (I didnt believe him) came back during the poultice period, assured us again to wait (I still didn't believe him and starting to get very angsty!) then it blew. Coronet, bulb and sole.

First her frog dropped and we thought that was it, today trimmer is back and said she's ready to drop the sole.

Here are the photos.

sole ready to drop
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During
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During
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During
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Finished, new sole exposed showing where abscess had pooled the base of the foot.
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I hope these photos act as a good reference for those wondering what it looks like etc. We may be at the end of our lameness road or not, but it's certainly a very interesting milestone.
 
Wow! Very interesting! I could have never imagines that could even happen!

fingers crossed to an end of your problems!
 
Wow, that was a goodun! She should get better and better from now on. Is your trimmer worried at all about that big white bit, just right of the toe? And how tough is that new sole?
 
No but we know we're not any where near the end of her journey, she's sound now but understandably terribly footy especially on that fore. I didn't take any after pictures once he'd finished but will do to show end result. She has seedy toe all round which suggests systemic issues so I'm on a mission now to start eliminating things to find what might be the trigger for that.
 
I would never have imagined that would've happened! You must have been pulling your hair out. Glad she's turned a corner and hope she keeps improving.

Thank you for sharing the pictures.
 
Thanks all, on the proviso she continues to improve, it's boots-exercise and another gentle 6 months until her new strong feet have grown and maybe I'll get my horse back. We will see.
 
Oberon, Shoko is your horse?
Clover has been standing, back feet tucked under sometimes on and off. We're still happy to treat her as laminitic (what harm?) however can't help but have bells go off in my head when you mention his stance.
If this horse comes sound now, after all this it will totally change how I feel about horsecare and how I approach problems forever, I know that much.
 
Thank you for posting. I now know what happened to my mares sole then. She was just getting over her first bout of laminitis and had just been shod with metal shoes after wearing imprints.
Took her out for a gentle hack - she had other ideas! She ended up with all four feet in the air and landed on a stone. Result was a punture wound. Abcess took along time to clear up. Then just as happened to your half her sole peeled off but the sole underneath had the appearance of a sand dune, really odd.
Sadly the next morning i found her with severe colic and was too poorly to be transported to be operated on.
 
BoolavogueDC said:
Oberon, Shoko is your horse?
Clover has been standing, back feet tucked under sometimes on and off. We're still happy to treat her as laminitic (what harm?) however can't help but have bells go off in my head when you mention his stance.
If this horse comes sound now, after all this it will totally change how I feel about horsecare and how I approach problems forever, I know that much.
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Not mine. He's stabled across from me. I watched his owners get the diagnosis. I just mentioned speaking to my trimmer about barefoot if they wanted to. I watched them follow the vet's advice and put the heart bars and gel pads on and kept my mouth shut.
Then one day the owner's hubby came and asked me for my trimmer's number :D.

Clover may have all kinds of scary pathology going on inside those hooves.
But it doesn't really matter to me....

1) Diet
2) Movement
3) sympathetic trimming

and leave her to it.

She'll do all the hard work. You just stand by and look pretty :D

She'll need a body worker to help her with stiff muscles from standing camped under - but I recommend that with any horse coming out of shoes.

Schoko needed a fair bit of body work after the shoes came off - and a new Lavinia Mitchell saddle :D
 
My trimmer has just referred me to the work of thunderfoot, to have a look. I am on a mission today to savvy up.

Currently Clo is fed meagre rations, 2mugs of D+H high fibre nuts, Naf pro feet and pink powder. Grazing is being assessed but luckilly our local WAG man couldn't identify any rye and stated he thinks we have high mineral , uninmproved meadow grazing (yet to be clarified) which she is on at night.

Trimmer mentioned about her body but suggested we really should get the feet right first, before we start fixing the rest. She isn't ridden (and wont be for months now as I'm soon to drop my foal ;) ) but we will certainly look into that as her pain will have caused her a degree of discomfort etc which will need to be ironed out.

Hope she feels like a new lady soon :)
 
scewal said:
Sadly the next morning i found her with severe colic and was too poorly to be transported to be operated on.
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Gosh I'm sorry to read that :( Horses are a rollercoaster, I'd never experienced it before having always had robust types but this one has spun my head since she landed!
 
Our Anglo had an abcess a couple of years ago when on loan, missed by the vet...tsk, but the farrier picked it up when he came back to us (because of the lameness, given up)

He got it under control but said we might see it flare up again, and flare up again it did, just before winter! Farrier has done a fabulous job, horse has been sound almost 2 months now, back in light work whilst foot is hardening off...

He was out of work over 6 months!!! Couldn't have asked for more from my farrier, what an amazing chap he is. :D
 
DragonSlayer said:
Our Anglo had an abcess a couple of years ago when on loan, missed by the vet...tsk, but the farrier picked it up when he came back to us (because of the lameness, given up)

He got it under control but said we might see it flare up again, and flare up again it did, just before winter! Farrier has done a fabulous job, horse has been sound almost 2 months now, back in light work whilst foot is hardening off...

He was out of work over 6 months!!! Couldn't have asked for more from my farrier, what an amazing chap he is. :D
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I do hope this is how mine works out. I'd probably cry with happiness. If I'd listened to certain professionals I'd have banged shoes on, given her 3 weeks (she'd of course still have been lame) and we'd have got the hunt to her.

I'm no barefoot evangelist, i don't believe its a cure-all however, the people involved and the school of thought may have lead us to an end point where my horse is sound again. If that's the case I for one will never stand by and hear barefoot poo-pooed off the cuff.
 
BoolavogueDC said:
I do hope this is how mine works out. I'd probably cry with happiness. If I'd listened to certain professionals I'd have banged shoes on, given her 3 weeks (she'd of course still have been lame) and we'd have got the hunt to her.

I'm no barefoot evangelist, i don't believe its a cure-all however, the people involved and the school of thought may have lead us to an end point where my horse is sound again. If that's the case I for one will never stand by and hear barefoot poo-pooed off the cuff.
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Two of our horses are bare-foot, and it's my farrier who trims them, I won't let anyone other than him do my horses feet. In the 6 years he has been doing our horses, he has made such a difference to them, those that need shoes, have them, those that don't, don't. He has advised me on feed and allsorts in the quest to keep my horses happy and healthy, and it's certainly worked for us. :)

Yes, bare-foot is good, but I will not agree with people when they say 'one size fits all', horses are individuals and will be treated accordingly to their needs. :)
 
Agreed, no one-size fits anything, is right. I don't know if she will end up going back into shoes, but for now it makes total sense (to me) to concerntrate on building great feet and then evaluate whether she needs shoes. Currently she does nothing and is now finally sound in the field so she can stay without shoes for a good while yet.

Good horse people are so hard to find, it's been such an eye opener this process and I think it will continue to be!
 
My friends gelding lost his sole the same as this, it just peeled off when we were picking his feet out (he'd had laminitis previously) and was it was quite thick, but it left a new concave shaped hoof behind that the gelding was sound on and he remained sound ever since. :)
 
That's astonishing, I really hope this marks a turning point for you both.

Reg had seedy toe last year and it ended up being dug out. He's still got holes in the wall of his feet but he bounced back very quickly- in another year or so we're hoping the 'holes' will have disappeared entirely. We're lucky to have such a good farrier though!
 
yeah the seedy toe thing is weird, she's got it all round, which trimmer says suggests systemic/environment rather than relating to anything else (hope that makes sense) so sending our grazing off for analysis and checking up on her diet ingredients to see what might be causing that.
We do have wet land, with sheep running it. I wonder if there's any link there?...
 
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