PurBee
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Im curious if any artificial sweeteners are in bagged horse feeds and treats.
Ive looked online at some manufacturers ingredients but they only give the basic main ingredients rather than whats on the label.
It would be great if others could look on their feed labels and supplement tubs for ‘sucralose, saccharin, aspertame,’ as a listed ingredient and post here if you do find these on your food labels, also check your medications like bute sachets.
I found a patent for bute to be packaged in sucralose and aspertame as carriers for bute to make it more palatable for horses.
Ironically bute is an anti-inflammatory, while sucralose alters the gut inflammation markers in mammals CAUSING gut and liver inflammation. This is due to sucralose being molecularly altered (man-made, not found in nature) to hold chlorine molecules with the sugar molecule instead of hydrogen and oxygen that normally accompanies sucrose molecules.
It was originally thought that the sucrose wouldnt be metabolised in the mammal, if bound to chlorine, than oxygen and hydrogen. But metabolites found in urine and feces in studies show it is being metabolised and doesnt just wander through the body, being ignored molecularly.
Chlorine ingestion isn’t good, especially at recurrent, repeated doses. It’s accumulative on its effects in the body. Its a carcinogen, and sucralose addition to diet shows it alters the numbers of beneficial clostridium clusters in the gut biome.
Clostridium clusters are important and occupy a large percentage of the population of gut bacteria:
“.....participate as crucial factors in modulating physiologic, metabolic and immune processes in the gut during the entire lifespan, by interacting with the other resident microbe populations, but also by providing specific and essential functions.”
“Commensal Clostridia are strongly involved in the maintenance of overall gut function. This leads to important translational implications in regard to the prevention and treatment of dysbiosis, to drug efficacy and toxicity, and to the development of therapies that may modulate the composition of the microflora, capitalizing on the key role of commensal Clostridia, with the end goal of promoting gut health.”
“The present review provides evidence that Clostridia, contributing to a significant portion of indigenous bacteria in the large intestine, are strongly involved in the maintenance of overall gut function. From an experimental point of view, this thesis has been strongly strengthened in a very recent paper [102]. Maurice et al., studying the role of xenobiotics in shaping the physiology and gene expression of the active humane gut microbiota, showed that a distinctive subset of microorganisms, enriched for Clostridia, tends to dominate the active fraction of the gut microbiota [102]. The position of Clostridia, in close relationship with intestinal cells, allows them to participate as crucial factors in modulating physiologic, metabolic and immune processes in the gut (summarized in Figure 1), and appears to be necessary for the welfare of maintaining normal gut immune homeostasis and, on the basis of their influence on the neuroenteric system, of the brain-gut axis.”
https://gutpathogens.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1757-4749-5-23
The quote above from a human perspective, and which all mammals share in common is the gut/brain/immune/hormonal and neural signalling.
As horse owners we know when the gut goes out of balance, there’s a plethora of downstream bodily symptoms that also present with this. We also know when we inroduce new feeds too rapidly, the bacterial gut change that occurs due to new feeds can rapidly cause loose stools, gas, colic, laminitis etc. all feeds come with their own bacteria and the feed determines in the gut which bacteria are needed to break it down. Hence why a change of ingredient needs to be done slowly so that the gut has time to develop and grow enough bacteria to digest full doses of the feed.
Chlorine is an excellent anti-bacterial agent, hence why we clean with it and pour it in swimming pools! Therefore sucralose made with chlorine molecules as a regular addition to any diet, horse or human, has potential to reduce and alter numbers of important gut bacteria.
More awareness is needed about these ingredients while we live in a world of ready-made foods which happily advertise ‘sugar free!’ while adding ingredients instead which powerfully alter the delicate balance of the gut and immune system.
“All disease begins in the gut” - Hippocrates
Ive looked online at some manufacturers ingredients but they only give the basic main ingredients rather than whats on the label.
It would be great if others could look on their feed labels and supplement tubs for ‘sucralose, saccharin, aspertame,’ as a listed ingredient and post here if you do find these on your food labels, also check your medications like bute sachets.
I found a patent for bute to be packaged in sucralose and aspertame as carriers for bute to make it more palatable for horses.
Ironically bute is an anti-inflammatory, while sucralose alters the gut inflammation markers in mammals CAUSING gut and liver inflammation. This is due to sucralose being molecularly altered (man-made, not found in nature) to hold chlorine molecules with the sugar molecule instead of hydrogen and oxygen that normally accompanies sucrose molecules.
It was originally thought that the sucrose wouldnt be metabolised in the mammal, if bound to chlorine, than oxygen and hydrogen. But metabolites found in urine and feces in studies show it is being metabolised and doesnt just wander through the body, being ignored molecularly.
Chlorine ingestion isn’t good, especially at recurrent, repeated doses. It’s accumulative on its effects in the body. Its a carcinogen, and sucralose addition to diet shows it alters the numbers of beneficial clostridium clusters in the gut biome.
Clostridium clusters are important and occupy a large percentage of the population of gut bacteria:
“.....participate as crucial factors in modulating physiologic, metabolic and immune processes in the gut during the entire lifespan, by interacting with the other resident microbe populations, but also by providing specific and essential functions.”
“Commensal Clostridia are strongly involved in the maintenance of overall gut function. This leads to important translational implications in regard to the prevention and treatment of dysbiosis, to drug efficacy and toxicity, and to the development of therapies that may modulate the composition of the microflora, capitalizing on the key role of commensal Clostridia, with the end goal of promoting gut health.”
“The present review provides evidence that Clostridia, contributing to a significant portion of indigenous bacteria in the large intestine, are strongly involved in the maintenance of overall gut function. From an experimental point of view, this thesis has been strongly strengthened in a very recent paper [102]. Maurice et al., studying the role of xenobiotics in shaping the physiology and gene expression of the active humane gut microbiota, showed that a distinctive subset of microorganisms, enriched for Clostridia, tends to dominate the active fraction of the gut microbiota [102]. The position of Clostridia, in close relationship with intestinal cells, allows them to participate as crucial factors in modulating physiologic, metabolic and immune processes in the gut (summarized in Figure 1), and appears to be necessary for the welfare of maintaining normal gut immune homeostasis and, on the basis of their influence on the neuroenteric system, of the brain-gut axis.”
https://gutpathogens.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1757-4749-5-23
The quote above from a human perspective, and which all mammals share in common is the gut/brain/immune/hormonal and neural signalling.
As horse owners we know when the gut goes out of balance, there’s a plethora of downstream bodily symptoms that also present with this. We also know when we inroduce new feeds too rapidly, the bacterial gut change that occurs due to new feeds can rapidly cause loose stools, gas, colic, laminitis etc. all feeds come with their own bacteria and the feed determines in the gut which bacteria are needed to break it down. Hence why a change of ingredient needs to be done slowly so that the gut has time to develop and grow enough bacteria to digest full doses of the feed.
Chlorine is an excellent anti-bacterial agent, hence why we clean with it and pour it in swimming pools! Therefore sucralose made with chlorine molecules as a regular addition to any diet, horse or human, has potential to reduce and alter numbers of important gut bacteria.
More awareness is needed about these ingredients while we live in a world of ready-made foods which happily advertise ‘sugar free!’ while adding ingredients instead which powerfully alter the delicate balance of the gut and immune system.
“All disease begins in the gut” - Hippocrates
