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twisteddiamond

twisteddiamond

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i have a 18hh clydie x WB, he was lightly backed as 3yo and was an absolute star, he is now six and is in the process of being rebacked and is being a complete and utter knobber
when he was first reintroduced to the saddle he was fine and as he has got fitter he has developed quite a set of tricks, he will plant his feet and refuse point blank to move, when you ask him to move he will rear, starting of with little rears but the more you ask the higher he gets, and will get to the point where he is virtually toppling over with the height he is getting to, he will also fly buck as and when he feels like it, and they are not little lol
the saddle he was backed in the first time is no longer available (stolen) so the only things that are changed are the saddle and his age/physical strength, he has been given a clean bill of health from the vet, his saddle is a WOW
 
Is this ridden or on the lunge/ long reins, if ridden I would go back a step and getting moving forward while on the ground, if while he is doing groundwork and you are sure you can hold him I would send him forward sharply when he tries the first rear, if they are moving they cannot rear, so keep him going until he relaxes and starts accepting the work.

If you feel you will not be able to hold him try working him loose to encourage forward thinking, if he stops and thinks backwards keep him moving forward, praise when he does go, your voice can be very influential make sure he gets very clear signs when he is good, growls when bad work well.
 
What happens if you have a heavy dummy "rider" on and what happens if he is on the lunge with rider on?
 
So its either the rider/ saddle or attitude, can he go out with another horse to lead the way, is he the same if there is someone walking, could you have someone that can get behind him with a lunge whip to encourage him to go or could you be lunged on him, if you have done all of these I would be tempted to get a pro in to assess.

I would also get the saddle looked at he may not like the feeling of the wow, if you could borrow something else to try and see if that makes a difference.
 
I would not be happy to bring him home until they have finished the job properly, can you go and ride him there first, you could find it gets worse and a remedy needs to be found before it becomes fully established. Maybe find a real horseman to come out to you and ride him away.
 
he is being a complete arse to handle for them also, to the point they cannot lead him, i dont want him being completely ruined, as he was no bother for me to handle (and im just a smidge over 5ft) and i could lead him on a loose rope in most situations without him being in the slightest bit difficult
 
Move him quick before it gets out of hand and he learns how to throw his weight about. I would say that they are scared of him, he is loosing his confidence and trust in people:)
 
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