Surely this isn't right..... :(
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EquiEquestrian556
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TBH, for a moment I thought it was fake. Poor horse. OK, it is probably a Paso Fino or similar breed, but that's in no way natural. Why would anyone want/ need a horse to walk like that?!
Pinkvboots
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Horrible poor horse.
Goldenstar
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Poor little horse
kinnygirl1
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I can't make any sense of what I'm seeing there tbh! Why on earth would anyone train the horse to do that?
cobgoblin
Bugrit! Millennium hand and shrimp.
Lol - won't get anywhere very fast at that pace!
Sounds like castanets.
Sounds like castanets.
SadKen
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Looked pretty disturbing to me. I can't think that this gait would have any use in nature at all, and in fact would be adverse for the horse. Ergo, why bother?
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
Horse does it naturally according to the poster?! Looks horrific 
Princess16
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Sick!
cobgoblin
Bugrit! Millennium hand and shrimp.
Had a little search and this is one of the three naturally occurring unique gaits of the paso fino. It's called classic fino.
Meowy Catkin
Meow!
Lots of hysteria and ignorance. Look at the video on here which explains it very well.
http://www.pfha.org/the-breed/gaits
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http://www.pfha.org/the-breed/gaits
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Goldenstar
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A classic fino ID what I drink on a lazy Sunday morning .
Illusion100
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Looks as natural as the Big Lick...
rara007
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Have you guys not seen the video of the foals doing this?
Orangehorse
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Quote from "The Conquerors" by Deb Bennett
"having incororated the beauties and physical benefits of fluidly shortening and lengthening stride, the modern Paso Fino breeder desires still more: to create a horse that can execute fino steps as rapidly as possible. The ultimate "fino horse" is one that is capable of extreme collection, flowing and supple movement and whose rapid footed gait beats a Flamenco tattoo upon the .... road. The well bred and trained Purerto Rican horse ...... can produce upwards of 150 strides (600 steps) per minute - that is more than 10 steps per second."
An extremely interesting book about the history of horses in the Americas, how they arrrived there and how different breeds evolved and why there are still the gaited breeds in the New World which have mostly died out in Europe. The Paso Finos are the descendants of horses that were taken from Spain in the 16th century.
"having incororated the beauties and physical benefits of fluidly shortening and lengthening stride, the modern Paso Fino breeder desires still more: to create a horse that can execute fino steps as rapidly as possible. The ultimate "fino horse" is one that is capable of extreme collection, flowing and supple movement and whose rapid footed gait beats a Flamenco tattoo upon the .... road. The well bred and trained Purerto Rican horse ...... can produce upwards of 150 strides (600 steps) per minute - that is more than 10 steps per second."
An extremely interesting book about the history of horses in the Americas, how they arrrived there and how different breeds evolved and why there are still the gaited breeds in the New World which have mostly died out in Europe. The Paso Finos are the descendants of horses that were taken from Spain in the 16th century.
Meowy Catkin
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A bit of a fuzzy video, but here's a foal doing it loose.
[video=youtube;EG0k_xVbU0c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG0k_xVbU0c[/video]
Comparing it to the terrible torture that is big lick is just ridiculous.
[video=youtube;EG0k_xVbU0c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG0k_xVbU0c[/video]
Comparing it to the terrible torture that is big lick is just ridiculous.
kinnygirl1
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Wow, you really do learn something new everyday! I wonder what it feels like to ride.
cappucino
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My current share is a Paso Fino and I can confirm that the gait is a totally natural pace for them.
This would be an example of extreme collection which would be no more difficult to train than a collected trot (though I doubt all Paso's could as collected and speedy as the one shown!) and is certainly no less natural than a piaffe or pirouette to these horses. I imagine it would usually only be used for short periods of time to demonstrate the gait, as at shows they go over a short section of a hard surface where the evenness of the steps can be heard and therefore judged.
When you have seen them gaiting across a field in a natural fashion you realise that it is just what they do..
They make great endurance horses as they can keep the gait going for long periods of time and as someone else mentioned is is incredibly comfortable .. so no need for a rising trot!
Goldenstar
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Yuk yuk why would want a horse to do that .
cobgoblin
Bugrit! Millennium hand and shrimp.
I just love that foal!
Illusion100
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My thoughts exactly.
mungasmum
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Why do many children want to walk tiptoe?
rara007
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Years of selective breeding no doubt- much like we've bred horses to gallop flat out over relatively short distances, or to jump random fences in their way, or to trot throwing their legs out forwards or knees up, or to carry a rider easier etc etc. We could all have przewalski horses but I prefer the modified beasts we've made personally
Meowy Catkin
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If you don't like pacing, don't get a horse that's a pacer, if you don't like the Paso Fino's four beat gait, don't get a Paso. Simple.
I'm sure that Enfys has gaited horses. I hope that she sees this thread and explains their virtues. I suspect that they are very comfortable to ride.
Maybe Cappuccino could also tell us a bit more about their share horse?
I'm sure that Enfys has gaited horses. I hope that she sees this thread and explains their virtues. I suspect that they are very comfortable to ride.
Maybe Cappuccino could also tell us a bit more about their share horse?
Enfys
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Faracat said "
If you don't like pacing, don't get a horse that's a pacer, if you don't like the Paso Fino's four beat gait, don't get a Paso. Simple. " Wise words.
Enfys certainly has seen this, and is spitting feathers.
I am very glad that someone put up the video of the foal.
I am going to go get the feathers out of my mouth, and take deep breaths before I am able to answer politely.
Just one comment to the OP, rather than condemning a breed, breed trait or something that you obviously know nothing about try educating yourself about it first.
I will return, right after I go out to feed my paso finos
If you don't like pacing, don't get a horse that's a pacer, if you don't like the Paso Fino's four beat gait, don't get a Paso. Simple. " Wise words.
Enfys certainly has seen this, and is spitting feathers.
I am very glad that someone put up the video of the foal.
I am going to go get the feathers out of my mouth, and take deep breaths before I am able to answer politely.
Just one comment to the OP, rather than condemning a breed, breed trait or something that you obviously know nothing about try educating yourself about it first.
I will return, right after I go out to feed my paso finos
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Enfys
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Poor horse, oh bull poop!
I have two, one DOES gait like that, and she is the best ride I have had for years. She is also perfectly capable of normal paces.
Enfys
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Funny that. We had a team of 4 paso finos beat hunters over a 16km course (with jumps) a couple weekends ago.
The next day, two of them competed in a completely different sphere, and won, beating quarter horses, earning over $600 in two days.
and breathe ...
Enfys
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Enfys
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Coincidentally there was the self same video and comments on an FB page today, this was an answer from a highly experienced, and respected, rider and trainer, she also happens to be my neighbour, I am extremely fortunate in that
"This horse is not being mistreated. It is moving in its own natural gait with maximum collection. This is the Paso Fino equivalent of Piaffe in dressage. This horse would also be able to move out faster forward. This is a show gait. Only a rare handful of them can do it this fast though and this horse is worth hundreds of thousands and would be highly honoured in the breed."
We all like what we all like.
"This horse is not being mistreated. It is moving in its own natural gait with maximum collection. This is the Paso Fino equivalent of Piaffe in dressage. This horse would also be able to move out faster forward. This is a show gait. Only a rare handful of them can do it this fast though and this horse is worth hundreds of thousands and would be highly honoured in the breed."
We all like what we all like.
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Ladyinred
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I know it's 'natural' but the amount of concussion to the feet and legs must be many times that of a normal horse covering the same distance.
I find it ugly and unnatural.
I find it ugly and unnatural.