Teaching methods you respond to?

[lifeslemons]

There seem to be a lot of posts at the moment r.e. instructors/trainers, which got me wondering about what type of approach works best for you within a trainer.

Do you find it more beneficial to have a teacher that screams and shouts at you and ties random pieces of baler-twine around your legs or hands to keep everything still, or a more 'refined' thoughfull approach when the trainer sits on a chair in the middle of the school and gives you gentle encouragement and provides insightful suggestions.

Personally, one of my trainers pounds the sh*t into me, and literally screams, insults and swears at me. If I didn't know him well, I would leave in floods of tears! I have spent literally hours with a stirrup leather tied around my torse to keep my elbows in. On the other hand, my other trainer is much quieter, and perhaps slightly more facinating with her advice and suggestions. I find the former great for the development of my position and riding, while the latter really helps with test riding and developing the horse's way of going.

Everyone else?

 

[madhector]

My two trainers are very different.

My jump trainer teaches using questions, everything is a question, and he keeps on at you till you get the right answer. Makes my brain hurt but gets fab results. He rarely gives complements, so when he does say something nice it really means something!

My flatwork trainer is very enthusiastic, keeps on at me till I get it right, and is always very positive.

 

[kick_On]

I defo have good cop, bad cop trainers. But then sometimes i do need a 'swift' kick up the bum to improve.
But the main thing for me with a trainer that they understand and are interested in my horses development. And are good communicators so i can understand their ideas for progress within the lesson and also that the lesson does have a structure to it so at end of session you feel you have improved or learn something.
Cos if i wanted to just be shouted at, i could pay my hubby or he would even do it for free

 

[trefilan]

my two trainer are very different too!
my man screams, shouts and swears at me and told me the other day that he had never had to do that to a person before but never got such noticable difference out of a pupil before

he told me that i have almost given him a heart attack many times. i do mostly with jumping with him.

my other instructor is quite quiet and doesnt shout much at all. i do more on the flat with her and i have her every week where as i only have the man once a month.

i think i react more with the shouting as it makes me think quicker and when i am competing i think of him shouting at me but also for the finer points on the flat the more detailed teaching helps

 

[mickey]

I respond to a lot of shouting and occasionally a thump with the whip!

 

[mememe]

lots of shouting!!

it makes me concenrate more and you no when they say that u have done someing well u really have done someting well!

 

[custard]

Both of mine are firm but constructive or I wouldn't use them. My time off is too precious to pay for the priveledge of being screeched/sworn at, get enough of that at work!

 

[Mrs_Wishkabibble]

Definately dont do shouting. I ride for pleasure and I have lessons to improve myself and my horse. The only instructor that ever shouted at me was asked to leave and was not booked again.
I try just as hard without the shouting.
One instructor said to me (when I asked her if she shouted) "Only if it's windy"
She did for me!

 

[darksided]

I don't respond to screaming/swearing it just gets me frustated and flustered, which makes me ride badly.
What I like is for an instructor to be firm but fair, pointing out my faults but being constructive in criticism, encouraging when things go well, asking my opinion on the horses way of going and how I feel (eg do I feel straight? which is important because I can be crooked at times) so that I can learn the difference in feeling between straight/crooked etc, and explaining things clearly when I'm having trouble.
If I'm being wet though, I do need a kick up the bum!!

 

[TFS]

im actually atm doing an fd in equine sports coaching n performance and were encouraged to question our riders as well as let them discover things for them selves so that they develop deeper understanding and knowledge as well as feel rather being commanding them so they dont have to think for them selves

 

[kerilli]

i need cerebral trainers who can explain WHY and are happy to answer all my questions. "because i said so" doesn't really do it for me, nor does "just effing get on with it." (i kid you not.)
i respond to words not pictures (unlike my best friend, who needs a trainer to SHOW her). i need to know WHY so that if i run into a problem when my trainer's not about, i can work out how and why to fix it.
i don't mind being shouted at, but i have to be able to have a bit of a laugh too if necessary... it's supposed to be fun, and if it's all too deadly serious then i think it can lead to way too much pressure on the horse.
i need a trainer that likes my horse... i think this is one of the most important things of all tbh, so many trainers seem to HATE horses.

so, overall, i need a humorous patience-of-a-saint total expert. not much to ask, huh?

 

[clipclop]

For someone to scream and shout at me I need to already know them and respect them or else I just think they are rude a-holes.

My trainer is brilliant with me. She has totally transformed me mentally. It helps that I totally respect her. As she is quite a way from me I tend to go and ride her horses.

Here at home I do use a variety of people. It depends on what I feel I need.

At the end of the day I am a Riding Club wanabee and I just want to enjoy my training.

I am not out to win any olympic medals. I just want to be the best I can be without it having to be traumatic torrent of screaming and abuse.

I am a person who likes to please so I am always giving my all during a lesson.

 

[jess_asterix]

my trainer doesn't shout at me just states clearly what she wants me to do, and if i don't do then she speaks louder!

I owe everything to her though, i couldn't canter over a pole on the floor when i started having lesson 2 years ago. Now im jumping Newcomers and going DC

So she must do something right.

I have had my legs tied to girth with bailer twine. My hannds tied down in a way thats to complicated to explain! and had the bareback, no reins, no stirrups, jumping and on the flat lessons!

I love varied lessons as i get bored just doing the same exercises, and she is great at making me try new things

 

[SpruceRI]

Hate being shouted at and hate sarcastic teachers which a lot seem to be.

I like people to explain why I should do things in such a way, and tell me, not shout aggressively.

Had a lesson a while ago where I flicked my horse with the whip as she wouldn't move away from my leg. Teacher went into one as to why I had done it?

Asked her how, if after a nudge and a kick I was supposed to get horse to go forward and after about 5mins of deep explaining she said I should tap the horse with the whip! Explained that that is what I had done and she just said 'oh yes....you did'

Sorry, I have no faith in someone like that!

Seems I'm the odd one out rather as nearly everyone else likes a teacher who screams at them!!

 

[ReadyTeddy]

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Personally, one of my trainers pounds the sh*t into me, and literally screams, insults and swears at me. If I didn't know him well, I would leave in floods of tears! I have spent literally hours with a stirrup leather tied around my torse to keep my elbows in. On the other hand, my other trainer is much quieter, and perhaps slightly more facinating with her advice and suggestions. I find the former great for the development of my position and riding, while the latter really helps with test riding and developing the horse's way of going.

Everyone else?

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yeah but lookat what they have to work with......

 

[viola]

I don't do shouting or foul language - consider it lack of respect and lack of words in someone's dictionary.
I respond best to intelligent, confident and expert tuition and I need to know whoever teaches me can/could do it themselves (now or in the past).
I like to know why and what for things are asked of me and I like the trainer to work on me mostly and on a horse through me (I believe that the rider makes the horse and apart from some rare occasions if something doesn't work it is my fault).

I am teaching a RC rally this weekend and after reading the replies above I wonder if I should shout a little

 

[conniegirl]

my trainer gets after me, she doesnt shout or scream but she has one of those voices that carries (think old ponyclub DC's booming voice) she will make me repeat andf repeat stuff untill i get it right and then once more just to prove it wasnt a fluke. she chivvies and gets quite firm, but i dont think ive ever heard her swear and the only time she has shouted was when someone in a group lesson (not mine as i have private lessons) put the horse in danger by doing something stupid.
she is quite good for nervous riders as well as she gives lots of encouragement but never praises unnessecarily

 

[Taboo1968]

I also prefer a fimer approach with someone who explains things.... cant tolerate the ones that stand in the middle cooing Yes, thats it, thats lovely..... although all very good for a nervous rider to me, it seems patronising.....

I definately prefer to be pushed out of my comfort zone but not bullied or screamed at....

 

[Bossanova]

I like someone who is very focused on improving me and the horse in relation to my goals. Someone who isnt afraid to step away from convention. I like truthful feedback- praise where praise is due and correction when something isnt quite working.
Most of all, they have to listen to my views- I cant stand not having a say in how I felt something genuinely went.

Dont see the point in shouting at someone, dont see the point in standing in the middle calling out the odd 'good' I like someone in the middle!!

 

[SpottedCat]

I like someone who makes me work hard and also pushes me, and when required gives me a kick up the backside because I can do it, I just lack self-belief then use being an amateur as an excuse. I was shouted at a lot as a kid learning to ride and have no objection to it, but I have to say I have not come across it happening as an adult - all the people I've used have been really nice and polite.

I cannot be bothered with people who don't make me think for myself, or who stand in the middle saying 'good' when it clearly wasn't - I can get the OH to do that for free! I like being asked how I thought something went and what I thought was good/bad as it helps me to do it right/better when I am on my own.

 

[franki]

I have to say I don't respond to shouting, screaming and insulting. I prefer to have something explained, then I go and try it and if I can't get it I keep asking questions or asking am I still doing x or y. I find that more helpful. My instructor is extremely proficient at explaining what she means and we just talk the same language.

I also like someone who teaches me one thing at a time until it clicks, then I feel I can move on. Rather than bombarding me with lots of instructions.

 

[evenag114]

I respond well to someone who pushes my boundaries as I wouldn't do it myself. Screaming and shouting works well too!

I recently had some lessons with Harry Payne and he was great, he would be firm but fair with me and my horse, and encouraged me (in a firm way

) that I should expect more from myself and my horse. What I can relate to is someone who uderstands that some methods work for one horse but not another, mine are chalk and cheese. I want a trainer to be a rider competing at a high level, but someone who has schooled their horses themselves, its not going to help me if they brought a horse at that level. BHS qualifications mean nothing to me, I choose a trainer by watching them ride and teach.

Most importantly I want a trainer that makes me want to ride at my best every time I go, I want them to see my improvements.

evenag114

 

[cavalo branco]

I have the same trainer for Dressage and SJ/XC, should say that I am "Very Mature" like good Cheddar(!) but still want to improve and compete. The main reasons that I like her are that she rides my horse so understands him, she competes at eventing herself, and she always has a plan of action to take him further. Should also say that we agree on the same methods of schooling which is really important. Does she shout? NO!!!

 

[dieseldog]

The Lady that I go to in a strange way makes me do what I should as I'm too scared not to do it. I feel that if she thinks that I can jump it, I can jump it and she is always right.

She isn't the sort of person that pulls your riding apart but she does get horses to jump a lot better than you think they could. She is more about you getting results.

Does she shout - well yes, but only because I seem to become totally deaf when I sit on a horse and I canter round going 'WHAT?' the whole time.