Terrier owner speaks out

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Earlier I posted an article from the Telegraph which decribed how a terrier that was savaged by the local staghounds and the hunt offered her hush money. The response from pros said it all:

Alan E: "Did she deliberately put the terrier in that position, I wonder? It does seem to suggest she cared nothing for the animal, and says more about her uncaring attitude to the attempt to recompense her for a genuine accident, doesnt it?"

severnmiles: "Awww.

Ah well, at 14 I'm sure it was on its last legs... :shocked: did I say that?"

Sheeps of Doom: "Presumably Pippa was one of those badly trained dogs who went for the hounds first cos her owner had allowed her to be a yappy little brat that attacked other people's dogs... "

Careeg: "Cathrine Hodgeson should be ashamed of herself for allowing her dog to be outside unsupervised in the first place..........."

Hercules: "Dogs being attacked by other dogs is an everyday occurrence and dare I say it, 'nature'."

Sheeps of Doom: "And why should a hunt get bad publicity because there was a bit of a dog fight?...

I think this stupid cow is in denial of the fact her beloved pet laid into two innocent hounds who are now dead because they retaliated - and that is the only damn crime!!!

I hope she realises how stupid she makes herself look!"


From yeserday's Exeter Express & Echo:

"Mrs Hodgson, and her husband Charles, have condemned the actions of the Tiverton Staghounds, which offered £1,000 as compensation for "shock and trauma" - on condition she kept the incident quiet.

The hunt later withdrew the confidentiality demand when she pointed out her duty to inform police.

Mrs Hodgson, who is chairman of the North Devon magistrates bench, had just let Pippa and the couple's other terrier Minnie into the front garden of their house, which opens onto a quite lane, as around 20 staghounds and two mounted hunt staff passed by on morning exercise.

She said: "There was an eruption of barking. I opened the door, grabbed Minnie and threw her inside.

"But Pippa was old and slow and they caught her barely a stride away from me.

"One had its jaws into her back and the other had her throat.

"They literally peeled her apart. I could see her flesh opening up and she was desperately wounded.

"I was beating the hounds while trying to cover Pippa with my body and screaming for Charles. It was so dreadful. Pippa was horribly wounded.

"When we got the hunt's letter offering hush money it made me so angry.""

Wouldn't surprise me if the next response is she's a lying anti.
 

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I think that this is a tragic thing to have happened, and I am so sorry for Pippa and her owners.

I am pro hunting - but I am very ashamed of the comments made on your earlier posts by other pro hunting people.

I think that the hunt have acted appallingly - and I hope that all involved have been severely reprimanded by the MFHA for their insensitivity and lack of basic PR skills.
 

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Agreed, having your dog injured or even worse, destroyed is an upsetting experience for all dog owners.

The hunt should have trained its hounds better.
The hunt should have played the PR game better.

However, no crime has been committed and it's hardly newsworthy. The antis are making a big deal about the hunt's actions; but they would.

They seem to go very quiet when it comes to real newsworthy items such as grave robbing, assaulting female anglers, planting of incendiary devices, mocking grieving families, assault, trespass, intimidation, vandalism etc etc.
 

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Yes, it's a sad reflection on certain people's mindsets that, DESPITE THERE BEING NO RELEVANT INFORMATION AVAILABLE, they invent reasons to explain and excuse the event.

RS
 

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Isn't it human nature to speculate?

I'm truly sorry that she has lost a treasured terrier, we'll never know the cause of why the hounds acted like that - was it lack of staff to keep control, had they not met anything like that when out at walk..or just a tragic accident.

The Tiverton Staghounds need to take some PR lessons and look long and hard at who thought it was a good idea to write in confidentiality clauses. Maybe even think carefully about routes on exercise...
 

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''Isn't it human nature to speculate?''

Only if you are talking about the cause of Princess Diana's car crash, 9/11 conspiracy theories and the existence of the Loch Ness Monster.

Otherwise the antis say that you are not allowed.
 

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Karl, you're so clever with your quotations, don't you think it would be far more interesting and fair if you actually quoted everything that we said on the subject if you feel such a need to quote.

Its always the same with antis, you only ever get half of the story...
 

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With one or two honourable exceptions, the pros have disgraced themselves with their comments about this affair on this site.
 

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With one or two honourable exceptions, the pros have disgraced themselves with their comments about this affair on this site.

And as you can probably tell, we're all terribly concerned about what you and your grave robbing mates think.
 

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Some of our comments were wrong, like mine for instance.

Mum has two JRT's and she would be devastated if anything happened to them.

The hunt were in the wrong but have acted correctly by sadly destroying the two problem hounds and offering compensation money.

But..dogs will be dogs.

You have to agree though Karls quotes were VERY biased and one sided, I had made other comments which he didn't quote. He picks and chooses what sounds best.
 

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There is a difference between being concerned and being interested.

A straight answer to questions would therefore be appreciated.
 

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I'm not quite sure why, but it's somehow very fitting that the disgraced hunt's firm of solicitors is called "Hole and Pugsley".
 

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Definately not! I find Giles interesting, he's passionate about what he believes in and is showing the flawed Hunting Act 2004 for what it is...a piece of cr#p.
 

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The posts I had in mind didnt read like speculation, so much as assumption.

Funny how all the speculation by the pros was defensive of the hunt. Not one of them speculated about other possible causes.

RS
 

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So, the plot thickens! Presumably the lady knew she was on a hound exercise route. And she has a garden which was open to the road, or was the gate open? Perhaps LACS can tell us if there was any inducement from his eponymous organization to make publicity of the case?

What appeared as a straight accident now seems to be getting a trifle suspicious, wouldn't you say?
 

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But then I might say that you antis did not explore all paths, you made the accusations straight away that it was the hunts fault, do you know that the terrier definately didn't attack the hounds? The owner certainly doesn't as she said when she came outside the hounds were already on Pippa, so nobody will ever know the whole story.
 

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"......Carreg: "Cathrine Hodgeson should be ashamed of herself for allowing her dog to be outside unsupervised in the first place..........."

KARL, you've left out more than half of my original post, you know the bit where I roundly condemn the hunt, must be difficult to stop the spin half truths and downright lies that you antis have become accustomed to.............Carreg
 

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Its exactly what I said Carreg, he picks and chooses to make his post look good and to make us look like terrible people. I am merrily ignoring the dork!
 

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No, I suppose not. Their methods of protesting against hunting and those who hunt has long since lost any form of 'noble defence of a persecuted creature' and turned into a no-holds-barred, dirty tactics war. If ever it was, that is.
 

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I'm not sorry for what I said in the slightest.

Why would hounds who live, breath, eat and are usually beaten up by terriers suddenly turn on one and kill it.

Is this woman implying hounds are vicious creatures that rip up anything?

We know what antis are like - as I mentioned - one claimed to be savaged by hounds when he stepped out in front of a pack in full cry and closed a 6ft gate, trapping himself in his garden with a pack of frustrated hounds trying to get through the gate....

Hounds would not attack a terrier for no reason - they are not vicious animals which tear random pets apart for kicks. Somebody is holding back.
 
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