Thanks Tiddly, I did find them both in Baily's but unsure if this source is up to date these days and googling both doesn't help in clarifying matters.
Arzada, tried twice over past six weeks or so to contact the latter via supporters' club site to no avail which left me wondering if they're still up and running. Do you know for sure that these are still in existence or did you just Google as I've done?