tye_bo
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Edited as no offence meant!
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ihatework
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If I had a horse on full loan then the owner showed up asking to ride it when I couldn't I don't think I'd be best pleased, and yes to let you would be doing you a favour.
So, if you are really sure you want the horse back, I'd give the loaner notice.
So, if you are really sure you want the horse back, I'd give the loaner notice.
Fleur100
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Has the loaner done anything to break the terms of your contract? If not then you could try asking her for permission to ride the horse on a Sunday.
Moggy in Manolos
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i always say if you dont ask you dont get
henryhorn
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I think I'd be a bit put out if you wanted to ride every Sunday, and as for taking the horse back well unless she has not been looking after it, that sounds a bit mean..different if it's been neglected of course.
Loaners need some security like anyone else, let's face it,she's just paid right through the winter when it's most expensive and you might take it back!
Loaners need some security like anyone else, let's face it,she's just paid right through the winter when it's most expensive and you might take it back!
cellie
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Speaking as a loaner, I would be happy to let you ride one day a week but I have a good relationship with my owner,but as a owner I think you could offer to pay for half the shoes or make some contribution then you would all be happy.
hadfos
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Speaking as a loaner, I would be happy to let you ride one day a week but I have a good relationship with my owner,but as a owner I think you could offer to pay for half the shoes or make some contribution then you would all be happy.
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Sounds like a good plan!!!!
I cant see that it should pose a problem if it is only when she cannot ride!!Can see why you would feel arwkward(sp),but give it a go before shooting it down!!
!!Afterall be abit mean to give her notice after she got horse through the winter and now is the time she can start to enjoy!!
Speaking as a loaner, I would be happy to let you ride one day a week but I have a good relationship with my owner,but as a owner I think you could offer to pay for half the shoes or make some contribution then you would all be happy.
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Sounds like a good plan!!!!
I cant see that it should pose a problem if it is only when she cannot ride!!Can see why you would feel arwkward(sp),but give it a go before shooting it down!!
Fantasy_World
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I would give the lady notice and get the horse back to be honest so as not to be unfair on any further people who may wish to loan your horse.
As someone who is loaning a horse permanently I would have to say I would be pretty well pissed off if the owner wanted to take the horse from me just because I had changed jobs.
Of course if the horse was being neglected or if the loaner had breeched any agreement that was in place or the loan agreement term had ended then fair enough.
Otherwise I think it is very unfair.
If the only reason you didn't want to ride the horse at its present location is purely down to you then that is being a tad pedantic. The person loaning the horse obviously likes the yard and you as the owner would have agreed to the horse being kept there in the first place I would have imagined.
You have two choices the way I see it.
Either swallow your pride and put aside any preconceptions of the yard, people and circumstances and ask to ride the horse on a Sunday with a view to making some form of financial contribution to this if the loaner pays for everything at the moment.
Or else take the horse back and don't consider loaning out again.
My words may seem blunt but to be honest from what you are saying and considering it is very people like you that made me wary of loaning in the first place hence the reason I drew up a very complex loan agreement and have a very good rapport with the horse's owner. If there had not been that and an element of trust on both sides then I would not even have considered loaning.
In this case I do feel very sorry for the person loaning the horse and really think you should have discussed this matter with them first and not broadcast on a public forum like this because you don't know who might be reading this.
As someone who is loaning a horse permanently I would have to say I would be pretty well pissed off if the owner wanted to take the horse from me just because I had changed jobs.
Of course if the horse was being neglected or if the loaner had breeched any agreement that was in place or the loan agreement term had ended then fair enough.
Otherwise I think it is very unfair.
If the only reason you didn't want to ride the horse at its present location is purely down to you then that is being a tad pedantic. The person loaning the horse obviously likes the yard and you as the owner would have agreed to the horse being kept there in the first place I would have imagined.
You have two choices the way I see it.
Either swallow your pride and put aside any preconceptions of the yard, people and circumstances and ask to ride the horse on a Sunday with a view to making some form of financial contribution to this if the loaner pays for everything at the moment.
Or else take the horse back and don't consider loaning out again.
My words may seem blunt but to be honest from what you are saying and considering it is very people like you that made me wary of loaning in the first place hence the reason I drew up a very complex loan agreement and have a very good rapport with the horse's owner. If there had not been that and an element of trust on both sides then I would not even have considered loaning.
In this case I do feel very sorry for the person loaning the horse and really think you should have discussed this matter with them first and not broadcast on a public forum like this because you don't know who might be reading this.
tye_bo
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Thanks guys. No she's done nothing wrong at all, she treats the horse absolutely spot on, no complaints on that score at all. Certainly I'd have no qualms paying towards the shoes or whatever she wanted in return for riding. If I had her back completely it wouldn't be because I was trying to be mean, I just want to get back into riding and horses again. It's such a big step for me though hence I want to do whats right?
tye_bo
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I would give the lady notice and get the horse back to be honest so as not to be unfair on any further people who may wish to loan your horse.
As someone who is loaning a horse permanently I would have to say I would be pretty well pissed off if the owner wanted to take the horse from me just because I had changed jobs.
Of course if the horse was being neglected or if the loaner had breeched any agreement that was in place or the loan agreement term had ended then fair enough.
Otherwise I think it is very unfair.
If the only reason you didn't want to ride the horse at its present location is purely down to you then that is being a tad pedantic. The person loaning the horse obviously likes the yard and you as the owner would have agreed to the horse being kept there in the first place I would have imagined.
You have two choices the way I see it.
Either swallow your pride and put aside any preconceptions of the yard, people and circumstances and ask to ride the horse on a Sunday with a view to making some form of financial contribution to this if the loaner pays for everything at the moment.
Or else take the horse back and don't consider loaning out again.
My words may seem blunt but to be honest from what you are saying and considering it is very people like you that made me wary of loaning in the first place hence the reason I drew up a very complex loan agreement and have a very good rapport with the horse's owner. If there had not been that and an element of trust on both sides then I would not even have considered loaning.
In this case I do feel very sorry for the person loaning the horse and really think you should have discussed this matter with them first and not broadcast on a public forum like this because you don't know who might be reading this.
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Thanks for your reply - no offence meant by my question, I may delete if you think it could cause unintentional upset. It's not just because she had changed jobs, we do have a good relationship speak regularly and she mentioned that due to her new job she couldn't ride on Sundays. It set the cogs off in mind and I wondered if it could benefit us both?
I would give the lady notice and get the horse back to be honest so as not to be unfair on any further people who may wish to loan your horse.
As someone who is loaning a horse permanently I would have to say I would be pretty well pissed off if the owner wanted to take the horse from me just because I had changed jobs.
Of course if the horse was being neglected or if the loaner had breeched any agreement that was in place or the loan agreement term had ended then fair enough.
Otherwise I think it is very unfair.
If the only reason you didn't want to ride the horse at its present location is purely down to you then that is being a tad pedantic. The person loaning the horse obviously likes the yard and you as the owner would have agreed to the horse being kept there in the first place I would have imagined.
You have two choices the way I see it.
Either swallow your pride and put aside any preconceptions of the yard, people and circumstances and ask to ride the horse on a Sunday with a view to making some form of financial contribution to this if the loaner pays for everything at the moment.
Or else take the horse back and don't consider loaning out again.
My words may seem blunt but to be honest from what you are saying and considering it is very people like you that made me wary of loaning in the first place hence the reason I drew up a very complex loan agreement and have a very good rapport with the horse's owner. If there had not been that and an element of trust on both sides then I would not even have considered loaning.
In this case I do feel very sorry for the person loaning the horse and really think you should have discussed this matter with them first and not broadcast on a public forum like this because you don't know who might be reading this.
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Thanks for your reply - no offence meant by my question, I may delete if you think it could cause unintentional upset. It's not just because she had changed jobs, we do have a good relationship speak regularly and she mentioned that due to her new job she couldn't ride on Sundays. It set the cogs off in mind and I wondered if it could benefit us both?
hadfos
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I guess in reality,thinking about your question alot more.....If it was my horse and i wanted him back then that is what i would do!I would maybe discuss with loanee plans,and explain situation,but maybe try and share some of the good weather together??
I dont think people are saying you are mean,think they just trying to point out how loanee would feel,however at end of the day i guess that is just what she is"loanee"!!!!
Depending on your contract and length of notice to be given you should have no probs!!
(I have had loan horses in the past,and circumstances change with both parties,i loved my mare and owner wanted to sell,we couldnt afford,sooo tuff!!!I was heartbroken but.....long and short horse was never mine!)
I dont think people are saying you are mean,think they just trying to point out how loanee would feel,however at end of the day i guess that is just what she is"loanee"!!!!
Depending on your contract and length of notice to be given you should have no probs!!
(I have had loan horses in the past,and circumstances change with both parties,i loved my mare and owner wanted to sell,we couldnt afford,sooo tuff!!!I was heartbroken but.....long and short horse was never mine!)
tye_bo
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Thanks Hadfos, yes I see what you are saying. She's a really nice lady I can empathise completely having had loan horses myself before. She's had the horse for a while so I understand how attached she is and I've been thinking for ages about what I want to do.
Fantasy_World
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In that case then if you have a good relationship then why not see about riding on the Sunday and not taking the horse back.
I suppose I just jumped on you lol because giving the horse back for no good reason is something I dread personally. I would not have taken my lad on unless it was permanent because I get too attached and I love him to bits.
If she seems happy in letting you ride then I would go for it.
It all depends on the current loan agreement you have in place really and if you have a timescale.
Does this lady have to give the horse back to you one day or could it be a permanent loan situation? Pm me if you prefer not to discuss on an open forum.
I suppose I am just one of those people who likes to know where I stand and if the lady knows that the horse is only going to be with her on a temporary basis then she would understand giving the horse back. However doing it right is what counts and so long as you were having the horse back for all the right reasons then fair enough. However like I said above though I would only consider having the horse back if I was then going to keep and enjoy the horse myself and not consider loaning out again because you could end up with another dilemma situation again.
Good luck in whatever you decide but please spare a thought for the loaner especially if she has kept the horse in good health all through the winter as I know how expensive and how much hard work that can be.
Caz
I suppose I just jumped on you lol because giving the horse back for no good reason is something I dread personally. I would not have taken my lad on unless it was permanent because I get too attached and I love him to bits.
If she seems happy in letting you ride then I would go for it.
It all depends on the current loan agreement you have in place really and if you have a timescale.
Does this lady have to give the horse back to you one day or could it be a permanent loan situation? Pm me if you prefer not to discuss on an open forum.
I suppose I am just one of those people who likes to know where I stand and if the lady knows that the horse is only going to be with her on a temporary basis then she would understand giving the horse back. However doing it right is what counts and so long as you were having the horse back for all the right reasons then fair enough. However like I said above though I would only consider having the horse back if I was then going to keep and enjoy the horse myself and not consider loaning out again because you could end up with another dilemma situation again.
Good luck in whatever you decide but please spare a thought for the loaner especially if she has kept the horse in good health all through the winter as I know how expensive and how much hard work that can be.
Caz
hadfos
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Thanks Hadfos, yes I see what you are saying. She's a really nice lady I can empathise completely having had loan horses myself before. She's had the horse for a while so I understand how attached she is and I've been thinking for ages about what I want to do.
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It is your neddy at end of day!!!Do what is right for you
,by the sounds of it you will be sympathetic to loanee,and i am sure you will make the right decision and go about it to cause least upset!!!
If you still need the help you could maybe broach the sharing aspect if you get on well???
Thanks Hadfos, yes I see what you are saying. She's a really nice lady I can empathise completely having had loan horses myself before. She's had the horse for a while so I understand how attached she is and I've been thinking for ages about what I want to do.
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It is your neddy at end of day!!!Do what is right for you
If you still need the help you could maybe broach the sharing aspect if you get on well???