The deed has been done.

[Kenzo]

Well Mr M is now a huge guinea pig as the 'big HRT injection' was done yesterday afternoon.

Turns out that the vet couldn't come up with a nurse and he actually rang me for someone to accompany him anyway, so it was good job I arranged for my dad to meet him up there.

I rang my dad last night and asked him how it went and to thank him for his help, ''well we got there in the end''

oh now WHY? I said in a dreaded tone of voice.

He went on to explain that Mr M didn't take too kindly to being jabbed in the field, or jabbed at all all come to think of it, they had to bring him in and try again in the stable but oh no big fella still wasn't having it and was still throwing his weight about and rearing up, so they ended up having to twitch him.

I was surprised because he's never been any trouble with his other injections but my dad said this was a bigger needle than normal and I suppose after Monday as well he'll of been more wise to what was going on.

I felt quite bad because although my dad is an old horseman he doesn't have anything to do with them anymore due to his age and health so he gets out of breath really quickly just walking around and to think him and the poor vet were struggling with him, as my dad said by he's grown into a big lad, the big bloody stupid thing nearly had us on the floor several times!

The funny thing was when I walked up to him in the field last night with another livery he looked at me and then at her as if to say your a stranger with another needle get away from me, honestly the look on his face said it all, it was rather amusing as it reminds you how blooming intelligent they are.

Anyway lado is still friends with me, I went up this morning to check on (new filly in the next field arrived yesterday) so of course he's pacing up and down the fence line, which concerns me but hopefully this Tardak will kick in soon and settle him down, bobbed his LW rug on and he the grunted a few times and trotted off to see what he was missing out on.

So it will be interesting to see if things start to change from now on, knowing my luck it won't make a blind bit of difference to him but all I can do is try and hope .....oh and pray!

 

[lensmith7]

Sounds interesting

Can I ask what he's having the HRT for? Just being nosey

 

[Quadro]

just as well u got your dad to go then!!!! hugs to him

 

[251libby]

- Hope it works *fingers crossed*

 

[Slinkyunicorn]

Fingers crossed that it helps your boy!!

 

[Kenzo]

No not all, due to his rig test results, high levels of testosterone which is why he thinks he's a stallion, operating is not an option (well it could be) but would be a big op because it's tissue that has been left behind rather than either one or both testicles, which could be difficult to find. So we are trying an off licence drug to hopefully give him a chemical castration and stop him producing the male hormone. We are not sure if it will work so its a bit of clinical trial so to speak, however it has been used before on horses with success but not by the practice I use, they did some research on it, the dose he's been given should work for around 6 months.

 

[lensmith7]

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No not all, due to his rig test results, high levels of testosterone which is why he thinks he's a stallion, operating is not an option (well it could be) but would be a big op because it's tissue that has been left behind rather than either one or both testicles, which could be difficult to find. So we are trying an off licence drug to hopefully give him a chemical castration and stop him producing the male hormone. We are not sure if it will work so its a bit of clinical trial so to speak, however it has been used before on horses with success but not by the practice I use, they did some research on it, the dose he's been given should work for around 6 months.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow thats really intersting. I'll be intersted to know if it does work. Keep us informed wont you? x

 

[Kenzo]

Yes of course I will

and thank you guys for your good luck wishes.

I was talking to one of the farriers last night about it all and he was telling me about the ones that he's has come across in his trade, he said one lady had to be rescued at a horse show because her horse which was a rig tried to mount her even, it trampled her down the floor, people had to jump in and get the horse off her, even when she was on the ground, he said it was very dangerous indeed.

Another case where he was shoeing a rig (full rig) and he got fruity and started slapping his belly with it (won't go into too much detail) but the owner warned him to stand back for a few minutes because he was about relieve himself and to the farriers amazement he did, he said he'd never thought he'd see the day that a horse could do that with out some form of stimulation etc.

Obviously my lad is unable to do the latter thank goodness but its important that we can try and control it better because with him being on a livery yard with geldings and mares in mixed fields its not fair on him or the other liveries.

The thing he better off in with a mare rather than being kept in a field next to ones with mixed mares and geldings, so he's not being too much of pain, but its not ideal as he's getting the odd nick on his back legs but then I don't want him pawing at the fencing if he's separated and injuring himself that way, we do have other fields available but at the moment there growing for hay etc so its not possible to do any re-shuffling of fields etc

 

[Flicker]

Blimey, I know a couple of blokes that could do with a shot of whatever you are using.
Ever thought of saving a bit and flogging it off to girlies on the black market lol

 

[bailey14]

Is the drug you have been prescribed your horse Depo Provera? If it is will you PM me x

 

[Kenzo]

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Blimey, I know a couple of blokes that could do with a shot of whatever you are using.
Ever thought of saving a bit and flogging it off to girlies on the black market lol

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LOL yes, farrier did mention bromide!!, they used to give that to men in the army/sailors to help suppress their sex drive, apparently it stopped them the sailors experimenting with each other.... if you get what I mean!

 

[Swift08]

Sounds really interesting! Atleast when we found mine was a rig we knew it was a full one as his levels were at the top although the op was still difficult as it was so large and high up... insurance company had a shock when we sent them the pic

 

[Kenzo]

Yes my vet said the results were a bit obscure, either top end (full on rig) or no nothing to worry about, low level fully fledged gelding, its more tricky when there near on border line.

We both walked him back up to the field on Monday evening and as soon as I put him in, he got it out got excitable and looking for his mare, the vet was surprised and said oh yes he really is quite bad insnt he, I don't think he expected him to be quite as bad as that...at that particular time of just turning him back out, in way I'm glad because at least he could see that I wasn't some overly concerned owner with a bit of a randy gelding.

 

[Slinkyunicorn]

If it works does it mean he will have to have top up injections every 6 months?

 

[Kenzo]

Yes but we are not sure (if any) what the side effects will be and because fo this it's not something I really feel confident in using on a long term basis.

At the moment due to his age (being a 4 year old) its important that we have something to help take the edge of him in his early stages of his education and ridden work so we can crack on and get him out and about without having the added problem thats all, because at the moment taking out to compete with a load more other horses gets him a little more excited than the average 4 yr old.

 

[Taffster]

Fingers crossed for you Kenzo really hoping this works and you can have your gelding back!

 

[Kenzo]

Thank you hun, I love him no matter what but it would be nice to have 4 yr old that is a little more easier to bring on at times

as he was going so well last year before the saddle probs kicked in as well.

One step at a time though.

 

[Chico Mio]

Depo Provera? That's the human contraceptive injection I used to have