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JenHunt

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our childrens meet was last weekend. a beautiful day, at a meet that usually provides plenty of jumping for adults and children, and an entertaining day even for those who choose not to jump... this year the ground was so wet that there was only one little fence, and instead we were largely confined to tracks and field margins. It was the sort of day where you all go so far, about turn, go back again, about turn etc etc... you get the picture.

In these situations the field all get mixed up and those trying to stay at the back end up at the front and so on. At one point, after this had happened for the umpteenth time, OH and I ended up coming (on our 2x 16hh+ horses) onto a farm track as the field shot off in gallop, behind a mother and daughter on ponies. Mother's pony was maybe 14hh, and 8yo (approx) daughter on a pony that was perhaps 12hh at a push. Daughter was cantering along, with one hand holding both her reins, and one hand hanging onto the leadrope attached to the pony's noseband, with the biggest grin on her face.

Mother then allowed her pony to gallop on and catch up the field, leaving daughter to catch up when her pony's little legs got it there.

OH and I held back for a while, making sure child was ok, and when the pony moved to one side, and appeared to be content to stay there, OH and I went past (at a fair lick admittedly) and allowed our two to canter on. Our canter was maybe 3-400 yards before the field all came to a halt. Small child joined us a moment or two later, still grinning, and her mother asked if she'd enjoyed that to which she nodded vigorously.

A few moments later an older chap, leading two small ponies off his hunter, and another 2 nearby, said pointedly to us "can't you control your horses? You pushed past that child, you'll have scared her half to death, would have thought you'd have put her off ever coming hunting again, you really should know better"

OH was fuming and I almost had to restrain him, instead I said to the chap that we'd made our way past carefully, ensuring not to trample the pony or child. And I left it at that, and we moved our horses towards the front of the field again.

to my mind, there was no harm done. The child hunts a couple of times a month with us, and she and her family have grown massively in confidence this season. To me her little face said it all!

so - the question (after this little rant) is - did we do the right thing? should/could we have done it better? or was the guy just being a bit funny with us?
 

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Seems perfectly reasonable to me as you checked that said child was OK.
I've been on children and beginner's meets where it's been seriously wild and woolly, with small children being overtaken by horses who've done most of the meet on their hind legs.

And after all, the child's mother went on ahead. Sounds like the little girl had a great time.

Unfortunately, there are often people who are out to have a go at other people. I experienced this sort of attitude a few times with one hunt I used to go out with. Needless to say, I don't go out with them any more.
 

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I would take the view that as the mother was prepared to bog off and leave her daughter to fend for herself, I think you did more than enough.

I would just chalk it up to experience and maybe avoid the gentleman for the next couple of meets :D
 

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It seems you weighed up the situation well enough and acted accordingly. I'd be extremely cross if you galloped past me if I had my 2 year old on a lead rein, rather cross if it was my 5 year old out, and not bothered at all if you came past the 8 year old who often accompanies me. She is perfectly capable of managing herself and the pony in most situations, and only had a lead rein at the start of the season more for the benefit of me and her mother than for her! Children all have different levels of confidence and ability, and you have to do as you think fit on the day. Obviously if the child is not smiling or the pony playing up you would act differently!
 

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It seems you weighed up the situation well enough and acted accordingly. I'd be extremely cross if you galloped past me if I had my 2 year old on a lead rein, rather cross if it was my 5 year old out, and not bothered at all if you came past the 8 year old who often accompanies me. She is perfectly capable of managing herself and the pony in most situations, and only had a lead rein at the start of the season more for the benefit of me and her mother than for her! Children all have different levels of confidence and ability, and you have to do as you think fit on the day. Obviously if the child is not smiling or the pony playing up you would act differently!

Oh I totally understand and agree - if the child had been on a lead rein then there would have been no question, and we'd have stayed behind them! It's hard enough to lead a pony out hunting without people overtaking you!

As it was, the child was holding her own leadrope, rather than being led!
 

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I think you did, yes.

I'm not a fan of children at the best of times, but at my local hunt's children's meet at the start of the season, the children who had never been hunting before showed total disregard for all other riders and found it great fun to come bombing past people (including myself) on young horses. Their parents had absolutely no control over them, and despite being asked to be careful around some of the horses it didn't seem to stop them careering into the backs of horses or squeezing past at full pelt. I didn't lose my rag with anyone, just tried to avoid children (killing two birds with one stone I suppose).

I'm all for having fun and that but when I went to my first children's meet (without my parents on horseback), I was very mindful of the bigger horses, and people who asked me to give them space! That gentleman who felt the need to give you a talking to should have minded his own business if he didn't know exactly what had happened!
 

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Ignore it, sounds like an arse to me, from what you say you rode considerately! 'Can't you control your horses', really, even if you had been out of control that happens and if a half-ton of horse decided it is in control there's naff-all you can do about it anyway!
 

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Imo you did not do anything wrong. However maybe the gentlemen misconstrued the situation, and wasn't aware of your thought process before you cantered on?

Having a young child who is in his first season, it does make a parent rather 'over protective'. If this man had children on a lead rein, maybe he was worrying about their future safety once 'let loose'?
 

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Yes quite possibly Sidney, he did have kids out with him...

And to update you all, I spoke with the child's father today. She was fine, he did say she isn't the most confidant child and prefers dressage as she doesn't get muddy, but not to worry about it as he thought we'd done the right thing.... And he's offered to help oh with his ironman
 
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