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EQUIDAE

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Today I really appreciated just how good by boy is - he's been in for 7 days due to high winds pulling the electric down. Every day when I turn him out for a leg stretch in the arena I expect explosions, every time he doesn't. He's good for the vet, farrier and dentist, and is ever so polite around the yard.

This is him being let loose today - totally uneventful!

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Even when I put my mare in with him they didn't go ballistic (they live together) at the excitment of freedom.

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We even had a little loose jumping session as they decided to put themselves over the jumps that had all blown down. So after a little reassembling we did pairs jumping :)

http://www.4shared.com/video/osxkpd2Ace/MOV_0029.html

Here his is less tatty - an hour before this moment he was in the field having a ball. It was a bit of a last minute entry. Silly me lined him up between two mares - won't do that again...

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Ridden work has been interesting - he's not a great fan of the leg so much desensitisation had to be done to get him from this

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To this

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Still a way to go yet but we are making steady progress. Before the end of the year I hope to introduce him to ridden jumps - just a bit nervous of the fact that he really stands off them when loose, no matter how small. So far in prep we have done poles, raised poles, poles between wings and raised poles between wings - next step is to put up a mini cross pole :)

I it's a bit of a gratuitous 'I love my pony' post so I apologise.

But please feel free to add your own experiences about the much maligned boys!
 
AdorableAlice said:
He has a good buck !

Why do you keep him entire out of interest.
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Because shown as a foal and yearling he didn't get placed any lower than 2nd, plus his dad is bred to the 9s and qualified for hoys this year. He is so chilled you wouldn't know he was entire. I plan on doing working hunter with him next year - if he does (exceptionally) well he can keep them and he will go for grading (not sure how that would work though with him being older), if he doesn't then they are coming off. You can't put them back when they're gone after all... He's no bother to have about - just gets treated like any other horse and lives out with my mare and 3 youngsters. He's the bottom of the pecking order poor sod

He's a very keen and very bold jumper so hopefully he should do well :) First time seeing an oxer here

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PS - that's not a buck, its more of an elevated cow kick at being asked to canter. He's only ever bucked once and it was something else!
 
The Tank said:
You've marbled your mare rather than geld a stallion that has is nothing spectacular. Just stupid imho.
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Just your opinion (and I wouldn't really call that comment very humble). The judges of the classes he was in disagreed with your observation. He's fit for the purpose intended - I want to do working hunter with him. He's jumping 1m10 loose with ease and has jumped 1m40 - not bad for a 14h2
 
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Stallions are just horses with balls. My stallion is my calmest one, and is ruled by my gelding. He only gets a bit manly when being asked to do the deed.
 
Good luck with him. D's would not be the first choice of many native WHP judges, certainly not mine. I prefer to see them compete within their own breed section on the flat.

What is the grading criteria for the WPCS.

My ideal large WHP is a New Forest. Quality ponies, lovely way of going and such all round types.

Having said that I had a Trevallion gelding as a hunter for 23 years. Big at 16h, tough as teak and as mad as a box of frogs.
 
The Tank said:
You've marbled your mare rather than geld a stallion that has is nothing spectacular. Just stupid imho.
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Two bad quality photos and a video in winter doesn't really give a fair view of the horse....my stallion looks like a piece of **** right now but is top quality champion and same with my mare.
 
AdorableAlice said:
Good luck with him. D's would not be the first choice of many native WHP judges, certainly not mine. I prefer to see them compete within their own breed section on the flat.

My ideal large WHP is a New Forest. Quality ponies, lovely way of going and such all round types.

Having said that I had a Trevallion gelding as a hunter for 23 years. Big at 16h, tough as teak and as mad as a box of frogs.
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His sire just got reserve champion at the Royal Highland so not all judges have this view.

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EQUIDAE said:
Just your opinion (and I wouldn't really call that comment very humble). The judges of the classes he was in disagreed with your observation. He's fit for the purpose intended - I want to do working hunter with him. He's jumping 1m10 loose with ease and has jumped 1m40 - not bad for a 14h2
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Judges have to judge what is put in front of them on the day and I can assure you that can often be rubbish.

The native sections at the 2015 Foal of the Year Show on 30th November had 2 or 3 at best entered. The only nice one, and it took the championship was a Dartmoor. If you want a decent opinion of him now, put some pictures up, front end, hind and both sides and I will ask a very well respected judge to look for you. She judged last years natives at Hoys and this years Foal of the Year.

If you want to keep him as a cob stallion, get him entered at the Royal Welsh and see what happens.
 
EQUIDAE said:
But please feel free to add your own experiences about the much maligned boys!
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Our stallion is the same, handled and ridden by anyone in any company, plays polo and rides off mares or will happily be led around with strange mares to cool down while still being clever, fun and athletic.

I often think I have lots of people as FB friends with super stallions - just of the top of my head - Avanti Amorous Archie and The arabs Mehmet and Calimeer all seem to be super and have lovely lives.

I also saw the AES lad Freckleton Enchilada at a Tilting Demo recently and he was impeccably behaved.
 
EQUIDAE said:
Just your opinion (and I wouldn't really call that comment very humble). The judges of the classes he was in disagreed with your observation. He's fit for the purpose intended - I want to do working hunter with him. He's jumping 1m10 loose with ease and has jumped 1m40 - not bad for a 14h2
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Honest not Humble, and my 14.2 Gelding jumps 1m40 under saddle with ease. He does not need to be a stallion to Bev working hunter and I work on a top showing yard where have far truer to type welsh D Geldings that are always in top placings. Again I say he is nothing breath taking, and to do something un natural a mare for a run of the mill stallion is un ethical

ETA my gelding was cut late and is a pain in the arse! Nothing boring about him.
 
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greasedweasel said:
Our stallion is the same, handled and ridden by anyone in any company, plays polo and rides off mares or will happily be led around with strange mares to cool down while still being clever, fun and athletic.

I often think I have lots of people as FB friends with super stallions - just of the top of my head - Avanti Amorous Archie and The arabs Mehmet and Calimeer all seem to be super and have lovely lives.

I also saw the AES lad Freckleton Enchilada at a Tilting Demo recently and he was impeccably behaved.
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I used Archie in 2011. Temperament to die for and put it into my cracking filly foal. He lives with his friend Nobby, a small spotted pony. I am not at all against keeping stallions but they must earn the right to be sires.
 
100% agree with AA Far to many un wanted horse and ponies around to be having more stallion of less than top quality standard around. He may have been successful as a youngster but that doesn't mean he has stallion potential now. It's time the over breeding problem is cracked down on and tighter rules for stallions to be kept as stallions.
 
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The Tank said:
to do something un natural a mare for a run of the mill stallion is un ethical
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What on earth are you talking about? She is not running with him to have a foal - she is marbled. And I'm well aware that they don't have to be entire to enter working hunter classes. Your opinion of him is of no consequence to me. I started the thread to appreciate the stallions that are easy and a joy to be around as I'm fed up of the bad press they get. My boy behaves impeccably and that was what I started the thread about, not to have him bashed by some know it all... My choice to have him entire is my own - he is kept in a herd environment and will be cut if he doesn't prove himself. As it stands I have the facilities to keep him entire so he isn't any problem to me.

AA - he will not sire any offspring unless he does remarkably well. If he doesn't then the tackle will go ;) It's too soon to tell yet though. I'm not planning on breeding from him just for the sake of it.

As for his sire - I can't spell his name :(
 
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God....some people are so bloody rude. I would like to see THEIR stallions placings and how much fame they have.

Why are stallions so frowned upon in the UK? Who flippin cares if its a stallion or not? Does it effect you in your life? No? Then just don't comment. OP is obvioulsy very happy with her horse as a stallion, and thats absolutely no reason to make them feel down! They are NOT being irresponsible by letting a mare and stallion run together for a short time for socialisation, the mare has marble (akin to a woman taking the pill!) Too many stallions are isolated because of peopels inane fear of them.


Also...cutting off balls is UNNATURAL.
 
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Reserve MM Worker at 2015 RHS was Lunesdale Wardance who is a Fell, and reserve in 2014 was The Pied Piper - Connie.

Your Sec D Colt will have the same prefix as his sire.
 
AdorableAlice said:
Reserve MM Worker at 2015 RHS was Lunesdale Wardance who is a Fell, and reserve in 2014 was The Pied Piper - Connie.

Your Sec D Colt will have the same prefix as his sire.
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She must have been telling me porkies then :(

Just had a google and he was champ at the Black Isle Show which was a HOYS qualifier. I'm all confused - I must stop taking people at their word... He doesn't have the same prefix as his sire as the breeders were not the breeders of his sire (and the current owner is not who bred my boy) - sire is Gwynfaes Cymro Du.
 
equi said:
God....some people are so bloody rude. I would like to see THEIR stallions placings and how much fame they have.

Why are stallions so frowned upon in the UK? Who flippin cares if its a stallion or not? Does it effect you in your life? No? Then just don't comment. OP is obvioulsy very happy with her horse as a stallion, and thats absolutely no reason to make them feel down! They are NOT being irresponsible by letting a mare and stallion run together for a short time for socialisation, the mare has marble (akin to a woman taking the pill!) Too many stallions are isolated because of peopels inane fear of them.


Also...cutting off balls is UNNATURAL.
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Well said!! .... best of luck with him OP, he's gorgeous!
 
I read this thread with interest. OP made it quite clear she wasn't intending to breed if her stallion doesn't come upto scratch so I can't see what the fuss is? Stallions aren't for me purely because I am on someone else's yard so never had the option or the experience. We do have a graded breeding stallion on our yard and he has turned his hooves to quite a few activities (hunted, evented, dressage) but his owners are pro's and he is managed accordingly.
 
The Tank said:
100% agree with AA Far to many un wanted horse and ponies around to be having more stallion of less than top quality standard around. He may have been successful as a youngster but that doesn't mean he has stallion potential now. It's time the over breeding problem is cracked down on and tighter rules for stallions to be kept as stallions.
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You live in the dark ages keeping a horse as a stallion does not cause over breeding, as much as keeping mares doesnt! You really need to get off your prejudiced high horse because at the end of the day who are you to tell somebody else whether they can breed with their horse its none of your business and luckily its still a free world . Do you react the same to people on here who have mares because if people didnt keep mares your argument for not having stallions would be redundant.
The fact your late cut horse plays up just shows how much you really know as most entires would be better behaved than that if handled properly by knowledgeable people.
In this day and age most stallions get more excited seeing an AI collection dummy than a real mare in the flesh!!!
 
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