The worst conformation you've ever seen? Good old fugly...

[kerilli]

http://fuglyhorseoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/08/dear-aqha-judges-if-you-want-world-to.html
now, she's definitely the worst, but here's her brother (3rd pic down), bad in a whole other way.
who is of course a stallion. woo hoo.
http://fuglyhorseoftheday.blogspot.com/
oh, and further down the page, a 5 month old filly being ridden in full tack by a small kid with no hat on. nice.
i love fugly. she deserves a medal.

 

[kirstyhen]

Oh. Dear. Lord! My brain literally cannot compute that information!!

I know someone that Fugly would have a field day with!

 

[Bossanova]

Christ, thats bad!!

 

[scotsmare]

For the second time today on these fugly posts OMG!

 

[CrazyMare]

I know a foal they would have a field day with *rolls eyes*

 

[FinnishLapphund]

I also vote for a medal.

But you can tell she's not a European, I mean the horse she called a good Shetland, sure didn't look like any Shetland I've ever been face to face with.

And I do think she does go on a little bit to much about fugly heads, I'm all for it when it comes to things that makes the horse less ridable, more likely to "fall apart" etc, but how does a hammerhead make a horse less ridable?
But then, the best jumper in a stable I spent several years in, did have a massive hammerhead, and a wonderful personality. Anything above 50 cm. and the Volvo transformed in to a FERRARI!

from Sweden.

 

[CracklinRosie]

The feet on that QH mare are shocking, what a bloody shame. QH do have more upright feet in general but that is cruelty. I love QH's and would have one in a minute, but not with feet like that!!!!

 

[Shilasdair]

I found the comment about the upright pasterns making her the 'poster' horse for navicular interesting; they have found, I believe, that long low pasterns are much more prone.
S

 

[nikkiportia]

I've got some pics of awful foals

Legs all over the place, but far too embarrassing to post

 

[kirstyhen]

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I found the comment about the upright pasterns making her the 'poster' horse for navicular interesting; they have found, I believe, that long low pasterns are much more prone.
S

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I thought that too, if I remeber rightly, it's the long toe, low heel that is thought to be more prone.
Upright pasterns, I would have thought, would make a horse more susceptable to ringbone. As in the case in my own little fugly pony

 

[magic104]

Short pasterns have less shock-absorption, leading to more a jarring ride and amplified stress on the lower leg. The concussion is felt over the navicular apparatus, so the horse is more at risk for navicular disease, high or low ringbone, and sidebone. Also windpuffs and windgalls occur from chronic irritation within fetlock or flexor tendon sheath.
The horse has reduced mechanical efficiency for lifting and breaking over the toe, so it may trip or stumble.

Anything that puts the foot out of balance or excessive jarring can increase the risk of navicular, along with windgalls etc. I think this QH filly has just been taken to the extreame as upright pasterns are thought to increase rapid acceleration ideal for sprint racing, barrel racing etc.

 

[Shilasdair]

[ QUOTE ]
Short pasterns have less shock-absorption, leading to more a jarring ride and amplified stress on the lower leg. The concussion is felt over the navicular apparatus, so the horse is more at risk for navicular disease, high or low ringbone, and sidebone. Also windpuffs and windgalls occur from chronic irritation within fetlock or flexor tendon sheath.
The horse has reduced mechanical efficiency for lifting and breaking over the toe, so it may trip or stumble.

Anything that puts the foot out of balance or excessive jarring can increase the risk of navicular, along with windgalls etc. I think this QH filly has just been taken to the extreame as upright pasterns are thought to increase rapid acceleration ideal for sprint racing, barrel racing etc.

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Wow. You sound like an authority on the subject. You should write for Wikipedia.
S

ETA: Sorry, my mistake. Didn't realise you already did. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equine_conformation#Conformation_of_the_Front_and_Hind_Legs

 

[magic104]

 

[Shilasdair]

Magic104, I don't appreciate your unpleasant PMs.
If you want to defend your using Wikipedia as if it is your own knowledge, go right ahead on the thread in question, although I can appreciate why you feel a little embarassed.
I am happy to discuss anything with you, but without the name-calling; it is most unnecessary.
Thank you.
S

 

[britbreeder]

Since when were people not allowed to cut and paste interesting information on a forum, or have an opinion that isn't in line with one's own?

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Sorry, my mistake. Didn't realise you already did.

[/ QUOTE ]

That wasn't at all insulting.

If her PM was that unpleasant, why not cut and paste it so we can all see?

 

[Shilasdair]

[ QUOTE ]
Since when were people not allowed to cut and paste interesting information on a forum, or have an opinion that isn't in line with one's own?


[/ QUOTE ]

I think everyone is entitled to their own views on any subject, just as anyone is entitled to disagree (preferably without name-calling).
I am not sure, however, how ethical it is to copy and paste opinions or information, without making it clear that it comes from a source other than yourself.
For example, if I were to copy information from an expert in their field, and pretend it is my opinion, that would be misrepresenting myself, in a way, as that expert.
So, copying and pasting from Wikipedia is fine, as long as you give the source, in my opinion.
S

 

[britbreeder]

And the PM?

 

[Shilasdair]

[ QUOTE ]
And the PM?

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry, I believe that private messages should remain private, no matter how unpleasant the recipient considers them.
S

 

[britbreeder]

And yet you feel able to let us all know of it's existence? I see an inconsistency in your arguement.

 

[Shilasdair]

[ QUOTE ]
And yet you feel able to let us all know of it's existence? I see an inconsistency in your arguement.

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And I see similarities with your spelling abilities and Magic104's but I'm too polite to mention them.

You just...er..happened...

... to register today...stray into this thread...aren't coincidences special?
S

 

[britbreeder]

Well, that's certainly one way of avoiding the point. Although I have to say that I wouldn't know Magic104 from a home in the ground.

So, tell us more about the PM that you don't want us to know about, were happy to tell us existed.

[ QUOTE ]
And I see similarities with your spelling abilities and Magic104's but I'm too polite to mention them.

[/ QUOTE ] Do you read what you write?

 

[Shilasdair]

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Well, that's certainly one way of avoiding the point. Although I have to say that I wouldn't know Magic104 from a home in the ground.
<font color="blue">A 'home in the ground'?

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So, tell us more about the PM that you don't want us to know about, were happy to tell us existed.
<font color="blue"> Yes, I AM going to do exactly what you want. Always. Anything else you'd like to see? Bank details? Home address? </font>
[ QUOTE ]
And I see similarities with your spelling abilities and Magic104's but I'm too polite to mention them.

[/ QUOTE ] Do you read what you write?

[/ QUOTE ]
<font color="blue">Sometimes I even proof read what I write to avoid errors in spelling and grammar. You should try it.

Although, in catching me out in that contradiction, I do now recognise you must be a 'genious'.

S

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[Beanyowner]

haha

Brightens up my day when this happens...sad isn't it! lol!

 

[magic104]

Shilasdair I am contacting admin to get a copy of the pm I sent you because I dont recall insulting you. What I did say was there had been enough trying to get one off one another &amp; there were far worse things to be worrying about. I think it pathetic you could not keep this via PM, but as you seem to have an axe to grind, fine, grind away. As I said to you in the PM if it gave you a warm feeling to feel you have embrassed someone then hun go ahead fill your boots. I am not apologising for anything in that PM because there were no insults. If Admin can give me a copy of the PM then I am happy to post it, as I dont quiet see your point Shilasdair as you have so made it public!

 

[Shilasdair]

Magic104
If you are using someone else's information, it is courtesy to acknowledge them, whether it is Wikipedia (not the best source

) or eminent experts in a field.
This is the point I was making, perhaps a little cruelly...but I do have an evil sense of humour.

I never do send PMs to other forum members to be deliberately unfriendly. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to receive the PM you sent me, and have therefore not replied to it.
I think there is something a little distasteful about posting endless smileys on the thread, but sending unpleasant PMs simultaneously: it is certainly not my style, but I guess everyone is different.
I can send you a copy of your PM if you would like?
Personally, I'd quite happily shake virtual hands (or talons in my case) and make up? Life is too short...
S

 

[LankyDoodle]

It's plagiarism to either accidentally or purposefully pass someone else's work off as your own. Moreover, at university on my postgraduate course, we were told to steer clear of wikipedia (as we could lose marks for using it), because it is not an authority or academic in any way, shape or form, due to the fact that any layman can add information to the online encyclopaedia. Not sure how that is done, though.

Therefore, wikipedia may or may not provide skewed or wildly incorrect information. It's usually quite good for your everyday things, though.

 

[magic104]

Oh for pity sake S post the flaming PM. I am sooooo sorry for being so lazy that I could not be bothered to type out what was already there for all to see!! I have some knowledge of QH's having taken an interest in them back in the 80's. I visited a few stallions &amp; have since owned a couple of PB's. I am therefore well aware of their allowance of the upright pastern. As I said S I have emailed Admin for a copy of the PM as far as I am concerned there was no insults, unless of course the comment "At your age" or words to that affect , was insulting, who knows. If you are not prepared to post the PM I most certainly will if I get a copy. I am well aware of how you like to play, but this area has until recently steered clear of the playground tatics. If there are any spelling, grammer mistakes, tough, cant be bothered to proof read or spell check! And TBH I dont even know why I am wasting my time doing this post, it would be far better just to wait for Monday, though I think Admin are probably going to be sick to the back teeth of all this pettiness.

 

[Shilasdair]

Magic104 - a few points
1. Here's your PM, entitled 'Your Point??'
'I could not be bothered to re do it adding the quote as it I did not think it was the end of the world. Sorry you have to be so pedantic, I for one find the whole thing very petty. I am not about to start another get one up on each other, there has been enough of that. Some one your age should have learnt by now there are far worse things to be worrying about then whether someone pasted something out from the internet which happens to be the most time saving instrument. For your information I do have a clue about horses feet &amp; their angle and how a bad farrier can do irreparable harm. But hey if it has made you feel good, left a nice glow, because you think you have humiliated me then go for it hun, fill your boots'

I still consider it 'unpleasant' and hope you won't send me any more like this.

2. I have no doubt you have an interest in conformation, and am sure I am not alone in hoping you will post YOUR opinions, which people will probably rate more highly than Wikipedia, anyway.

3. Admin may well be sick of this by Monday - but I'm not the one who involved them

4. I really don't want to get into a protracted and very dull war of words with you over what was just a bit of teasing that you plagiarised Wikipedia without acknowledgement.
5. I would like to 'shake virtual hands' as I said before - I certainly don't have any ill feelings towards you.

S

 

[foxviewstud]

as usual seems to have gone off on one, back to the pics i would be very embarrassed if i bred something like that it surely is not pretty.and i cannot understand why someone would want to show let alone place it.

 

[htobago]

[ QUOTE ]
It's plagiarism to either accidentally or purposefully pass someone else's work off as your own. Moreover, at university on my postgraduate course, we were told to steer clear of wikipedia (as we could lose marks for using it), because it is not an authority or academic in any way, shape or form, due to the fact that any layman can add information to the online encyclopaedia. Not sure how that is done, though.

Therefore, wikipedia may or may not provide skewed or wildly incorrect information. It's usually quite good for your everyday things, though.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't know much about Wikipedia, but I've been told that it is 'edited' or 'moderated' to some extent, in that they don't allow people to add, say, entries about themselves or their friends if they are not already well-known people with notable achievements/publications/etc. In other words, it is not a complete 'free for all' where anyone can write anything they like.

And I believe they do try to edit out gross inaccuracies or obviously malicious comments. But that still allows plenty of room for error, so it should never be regarded as an infallible or definitive source of information on any subject.

Trivial example: someone told me recently that the entry about me says I grew up in Australia, which is completely untrue!