Thermatex - under rug?

[Hormonal Filly]

Would you use a Thermatex as an under rug?

My 200g Weatherbeeta Comfitec turnout seems to of lost its ‘fill’ if that’s even possible. It’s only just over a year old, been washed/reproofed once and feels like a 100g if that. (Is that possible?!)

Thermatex is nice and thick.. but do they slip back like fleeces? Its -4 here today according to our thermometer.

 

[ihatework]

No I wouldn’t - they pull/stretch

 

[jnb]

Absolutely not, recipe for rug/wither sores and rubs. They slip back, stretch at the neck and clamp onto the withers.
Ditto fleeces, gives me the heebie jeebies when people use them as under rugs, apart from the stretching/clamping there is static to consider.
Use a shiny/smooth stable rug if you need a liner, or a liner (weatherbeeta do several different weights)

It will be the washing/reproofing that has made your 220g rug feel like a 100g one. I never wash/proof mine, I have 2 of each weight (horse lives out) so the inside of them doesn't get too greasy.

 

[AandK]

As above, definitely not. Same as a fleece, they will pull back and stretch. Do you have a stable rug you can use instead?

 

[Hormonal Filly]

Thanks all. ? I have a new Thermatex I haven’t yet used so wasn’t sure if they pulled back like fleeces (cringe at those as under rugs)

@AandK No stable rugs because our stables have outdoor pens. I have a 100g, 200g (which feels thin) but with both on, she feels to warm. I’ll have to buy a liner.

 

[Birker2020]

My thermatex kept slipping back over withers so my rug repairer 'nipped and tucked it in' at the shoulders.

Sadly by the time my thermatex came back I'd already decided to pts but we tried it on anyway to see if it would have fitted and it was a lovely fit.

 

[SEL]

I'm layering outdoor rugs overnight (mine live out).

 

[Tiddlypom]

Sadly thermatexes do pull back when used as underugs.

My wonky PSSM mare is living out and currently rocking her new 300g liner under a 100g turnout, and a 150g hood. She's very cosy and comfortable in this.

The other two non PSSM horses, who also live out, are in 100g turnouts and hoods and a 100g liner apiece, and that's just right for them.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

I just bought a derby house liner they have money off at the moment a 100g only just over £30 they fit on my weatherbeeta rugs fine.

 

[Ratface]

Old Horse is an unclipped Arabian. He has a fine, thin coat and lots of mane. He's out in the day (unless severe frost), from dawn to dusk and comes in overnight. He's in a 100g outdoor rug under a 200g outdoor rug with a full neck. He's checked before going out, whilst out and just before lights-out at 1900hrs, and so far, is toasty. He has a very large rug wardrobe, so can wear mix n match as required. He's at a small yard in the South East of England and is watched with hawk-like dedication and care by his staff team.

 

[Bobthecob15]

Yes they slip back ? 20 odd years ago I did use mine as an under rug in the stable only and it slipped back and gave my horse bald shoulders I used a bib thing over his chest but it didn't make any difference. Such a shame as they are wonderful rugs. I'm not sure if the clip fastening ones move as much but the design of the fabric does mean it stretches with time

 

[Birker2020]

Yes they slip back ? 20 odd years ago I did use mine as an under rug in the stable only and it slipped back and gave my horse bald shoulders I used a bib thing over his chest but it didn't make any difference. Such a shame as they are wonderful rugs. I'm not sure if the clip fastening ones move as much but the design of the fabric does mean it stretches with time

Just get your rug repairer to put some darts in the shoulder. That's what we did with mine.

 

[AdorableAlice]

I have one kept in a big box with her personal patio area, she stands out in all weathers and I find the easiest, most comfortable method of keeping her warm is Shires liners under a top waterproof sheet. No shoulder rubs or wither pressure.

Thermatex are lovely and very useful for competing horses standing around at a show or on the truck but I would never use them as a routine rug.

 

[rextherobber]

I've just collected a horse from a stay at an equine hospital, it was freezing when I went to collect, and instead of using the liner I had supplied as an under rug, they'd used the travel Thermatex. Obviously it had slipped back, I hate to think how long she was uncomfortable for.

 

[Vermeer]

Second using a liner! Bought one the other day and so far it's been fab.

 

[Hormonal Filly]

I've just collected a horse from a stay at an equine hospital, it was freezing when I went to collect, and instead of using the liner I had supplied as an under rug, they'd used the travel Thermatex. Obviously it had slipped back, I hate to think how long she was uncomfortable for.

Oh no, that doesn’t sound comfortable ?

 

[Fieldlife]

Liners are so great, highly recommended. I have a range. The clip in front and back, dont move, dont rub, are easily washable. Fast drying, wicking, silky, help polish horse. No buckets to create pressure points.

My horse is fully clipped, living out, and whilst it is below freezing, wearing a 200gm turnout and 300gm liner clipped in.

 

[Hormonal Filly]

Urgh. She was in a 100g turnout with neck plus 250g liner but felt too toasty yesterday in my opinion. I changed last night to a 250g with neck as a friend let me borrow a rug.

Last night temps went down to -5 and she was in. This morning she was grumpy, and not warm to touch. Although not shivering, but on her clipped areas didn’t feel warm.

Added a 100g turnout top of the the 250g. She seems much happier.

A friend is telling me they shouldn’t feel warm to touch (even if clipped) as long as they don’t shiver it’s fine. Never heard that before? I don’t like mine to feel hot, but they should feel warm on their shoulder under a rug when clipped IMO.

 

[Vermeer]

Winter is such a pain. The endless rug saga... My pony is a native breed, very hairy and could probably lose a little bit. Have literally just walked through the door having just checked her - she's wearing a 50g liner under a zero fill, warm underneath (but not too much) and seems absolutely fine, yet I'm sitting here worrying that I should have put the 100g on her! I hope I'm not the only one ?

 

[Vermeer]

A friend is telling me they shouldn’t feel warm to touch (even if clipped) as long as they don’t shiver it’s fine. Never heard that before? I don’t like mine to feel hot, but they should feel warm on their shoulder under a rug when clipped IMO.

I wonder if there is anything to this. Have always heard the opposite - but then again, have always preferred pony to be on the colder side rather than too warm, as she sweats easily.