Thinking of buying 1st horse....

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I've just started pondering on the possibility of buying my first horse.
I'm an adult rider who rode at stables when young and got back to riding 2 years ago. I still love it and look forward to every lesson so I know it's not a fad.
So - just as a starter for 10, are you able to give me a rough idea on the annual costs of owning a horse. I would think I'd go for DIY or part livery (in the South West if area makes any difference).
Please me nice to me - I know this is a big step and a big responsibility hence why this thinking process will probably be a very long and careful one.
Also if you have any other tips on starting out I'd appreciate them. I was thinking of asking if I could help out at the stables just to get more stable management experience, or let the other liveries know that I'm available to help out doing ANYTHING (including poo picking) if it might teach me anything.
Also if you could suggest what is likely to be involved time wise (do you ride every day?, what's your usual daily routine?, what needs doing on a daily/weekly/monthly basis)
I know this makes me sound like a complete numpty - I don't think I am, I'm quite sensible and pretty unflappable and have a (very) rough idea of what's involved (feed, check, muck-out, groom,ride) but would like an idea of how long this usually takes people.
Sorry for the long and demanding post - G&T in return for answers!
 
You are not a numpty! Very wise to ask all these questions, wish I had done so before I relaunched my equine life a year ago. I too had a long break then went back to local RS for lessons. I then was lucky and found a horse to share for £60 a month, bliss more riding and less cost than the RS. The invaluable bit was I got to help muck out, go to feed merchant be there for the farrier, all the things you will have to do. It was a big help. I kept thinking all the time I shared that it was too time consuming and expensive, that was until I met my horse. Cost wise can vary wildly. There is a thread on here about livery and costs. I don't get much change out of £300 a month but that is part livery as I work odd hours. On the bigger DIY yards there are more people around to help you and lots of people have horses that have families work ****s, allsorts. DIY can be as little as £100 a month.The hardest part I think is finding the right horse, I got lucky. Be sure of what you want and try to get someone experienced to look with you. Good Luck!
 
Hi. I would suggest trying to find someone to share with. Either buy your own horse and look for someone more experienced to help you or try and find someone who is looking for help with their horse.
I would suggest either full or part livery until you feel you can do everything yourself.
All livery costs very depending on the yard, the facilities you have access too, the area of the yard and what services are provided by the YO.
My yard it's £25 a week DIY, £45 Part Livery and £75 Full. The yard has 2 outdoor schools, one indoor school, a jumping paddock, 250 acres of off road hacking with log jumps, a horse walker and a lunging pit. This yard is in South Cheshire.
Also need to factor in cost of feed, forage, bedding, farrier, vaccinations, tack, rugs, insurance...even fuel getting too and from the stables.
As far as being a numpty...your not, your just a novice. Everyone has to start somewhere and just because you didn't have a pony as a child and have years of experience doesn't mean you can't own your own horse.
You don't have to know about every illness...thats a vets job but you should get an understanding of basic first aid as horses can be very accident prone.
Try and read horse mags things like Your Horse, Horse and Rider etc, read books on horse management and maybe even look at doing a course at your local equine college.
Take someone experienced with you when you go to look for a horse.
In the mean time getting hands on yard experience is a really good idea. Volunteer your services at your riding school or put an ad up in your local saddlery.
Be honest about your experience to people otherwise it could all end in tears.
Good Luck and if you need any further help please feel free to PM me or add to your post. :)
 
I'm in the south east, so for me it's much more expensive to keep a horse then other areas, I bought a horse with little knowledge and kept it on diy and sort of learnt as I went. This worked for me as I had a very supportive yard and good instructors.

I paid £140 a month for diy livery which was just for a stable, field and use of facilities. I'm now on part at a much better yard which is £600 a month! very expensive, but it is one of the best yards in the area with fantastic facilities.

I'm glad I did diy at first though, so I had to learn to muck out, learn about feeding etc etc. I think it's really important to know the basics.
Helping at the stables would be a brilliant idea! get as much knowledge under your belt first so you aren't panicing when you get your own!

Timewise, on diy I was down for about 2 hours a day during the week in the evening. I had someone to turn out for me. In that 2 hours I mucked out, made haynets and feed and schooled/hacked for about an hour. I spent more time at the weekends because I would be hacking for 2+ hours and chatting away more!
On part, I now just go down to ride so I'm down for around an hour to ride and then sometimes stay and skip out or clean my tack.
I know people who spend much less time, but I'm quite slow and enjoy my chatting!


sorry for the essay! and best of luck on your hunt!
 
I loaned a horse for 2 years, and really it was just sheer luck that she was put up for sale when my funding was a bit better! I'm not sure if there are many about but you do occasionally get horses that are up for loan with the possibility of buying. At least by then I knew what I was doing, knew the mare inside out and there is no difference in what I spend on a month to month basis - so was fully prepared!
I'm sure a yard in your area would be looking for someone to help out that wants to learn! So have a look around. Also if you're riding somewhere,they may offer stable management lessons for an hour or something. So something to think about :)
I only pay £52 a month for DIY livery, but I'm guessing that's not what its like elsewhere!
good luck on your search!
 
oh you sound just like me!!!1
as a child i loved riding - had a few lessons but mainly hacked out with friends - i no wknow it wasnt riding as such lol - the pony simply played follow the leader and i just sat there!
My daughter became intereste din riding 2 years ago so we both went for lessons at a local riding school - i became besotted and just knew i wanted a horse of my own.
So we started off with riding lessons then i put a notice in a local yard asking if we could help someone with their horse in return for them teaching us stable management. I just used to watch everyone - if someone was doing something i didnt understand id ask. If i read something i didnt understand id ask on a forum or google it!!!!!!! The internet is a brillaint brillaint thing!!!!!!!! We then went onto a horse share and finally last August bought our boy.
I made sure we kept him at a busy yard, that everyone knew we were novices. I read everything i could, joined horse forums - basically ive spent 2 years just watching, reading and learning.
We now have a fabulous riding instructor who doesnt only teach us to ride but also offers invaluable tips and advice on everything she can - i have her number and i know at any time i can text her for advice.
im so pleased for you - you do sound just like me and you can do it!!!!!!!!!! Good luck and enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
 
i would maybe buy your ideal horse what is suitible for you take someone experianced with you!, i would also look for a sharer to help you that would also learn you alot more about horses, livery will be cheaper now than in winter think about that two, worming 4 times a year and teeth checked twice, vacs upto date etc, it is amazing having your own horse im lucky to have three but i have my own place to keep them and dont have to pay for the costs of livery hope this helps.xxx
 
i hve been a horse owner for 2 yrs, after years of riding schools, loans, borrows etc. I did a 2 yrs horse management course when i was 17 (18 yrs ago!) and worked with horses for a while. i'd had 9 yrs out of horses when i had my children - lack of time, money and no car those days. when my youngest started full time school i began riding again at my local school. once a week just wasnt enough and like you, after careful consideration and talking to horse owning friends, i took the plunge.

and onto now, my horse lives a 2 min walk from my house. perfect!! he lives out 24/7. if i'm working all day, i go down after the school run and i take about 3/4 of an hour to feed him, groom him, do my wheelbarrow of muck removal from field. pop back after 3pm school run in winter if rugs needs putting on or changing. and once a week from dec to apr its my rota'd day to put the haylage down in eve. i try to ride a minimum of 2 days a week. and in summer i can get out about 4 times a week. during school hols if i cant ride due to having kids home (i'm a single mum), i either encourage my kids to ride or i will lunge him. he wouldn't care if he went unridden, but i dont like to think of him doing nothing and getting fat!.

cost wise = shod on front £47 every 8 weeks
field rent - £15 week
insurance £30 a month
wormers = £8 every other month and once a yr one costs £15. (wormers are provided by field owner)
hay - about £100 a year fed dec - apr.
vet call out - £40. jabs once a year £40
teeth - £35 once a year
feed (dengie hi-hi)- £10 per bag. in winter a bag lasts a month. the last bag i bought was 15th april and i'm nearing the end of that now. so summer approx one bag every 3 months.
i feed him garlic. £8.90 for 2kg. lasts about 5 months
and thats the basic costs. then you've got fly sprays, hoof oils, rugs, repairs and wash, supplements. your own equipment and clothes.

and if you're anything like me, then you'll want to hve everything for your horse! ok, once equipment is bought, you hve it for life, but stuff does need replacing from time to time. then there's having enough put aside for vet bills, just in case. back checks, saddle checks etc.

but all in all, my horse costs roughly the same to keep each week as it cost me to hack out a riding school horse for an hour a week. altho every horse is different, i'm lucky that mine is fairly low maintenance.

best of luck with your search and enjoy every moment of horse mummyhood when it finally happens!!
 
Annual costs vary so shop around and find out what you get for your money. Sometimes it is quite hidden. When I first got my horse I had him at a friends livery yard. it is just DIY, but she would help if anyone wants advice, check horses once a day in less work intensive times of year (like spring when they were out 24/7) so I only had to go once a day, put horse out if you couldn't make it, etc etc. She charges £80 a month.

Had to move from there cos it was too far away. Now I pay £50 a month, but all I get is rent of part of field and stable and very very little tunrout in winter (can just turnout when I muck out)

I would say you want something more like the first yard I was on. Look for yards that say they have experienced owners. It's just nice to know there is someone there to support you.

Um, as far as cost goes it will be more than you think! and really depends type of horse and what you will be doing with it. Travel and competeing and lessons are expensive. As a general rule I pay £50 a month for all food in winter at the moment I am not feeding anything except grass, but my horse does quite well on very little food. This varies greatly from horse to horse.

I think for other costs I would agree with what others have said although i think my farrier bills are slightly more, my vet bills (usually) slightly less. i would advise taking out insurance, when horse is ill/injured you don't want to be counting the pennies every time you want the vets advice.

I would advise riding as many different horses as possible in order to find what you like/don't like and helping out as many people as you can (you learn little things like what rug is suitable for when) also go to talks, maybe join riding club if they do stable management stuff. listen to those who know and never be afraid to ask for help, most people are only to gald to give advice completely free, but won't unless you ask. Take someone who is experienced to look for horse as well.

Time wise. spend about 40 min in morning and again in evening in winter. In the summer if I am not riding can check him twice and make sure hes got water and change any rugs these visits will take about 15-30 mins, but this is with him out 24/7.

You only have to ride every day if horse is in all the time. If not it depends on your horse and how much you want to ride. If I ride I will be with horse for 2 hrs at least and I probably ride about 5 days a week.
 
I would look for a share and try that for a few months as that will teach you the basics. What part of the south west are you in?

Price wise i used to pay between £12-£15 a week for stables and turnout DIY. I now rent my own place and its a lot cheaper for all of my horses. Shoes cost me £63 every 5 weeks, trims cost £15. Then vets bills soon add up, plus insurance and all the others bits and pieces you will need. My mare has to be ridden every day to keep her active and helps her, but past ponies i have had have only ridden 4/5 times a week.
 
i think its a great idea to ask to help so you can get a little practise i first. there is the cost of buying and that depend on what type of horse you want and full livery is usually £100 and upwards per week, part livery usually £40 upwards a week dependsing on what extras you want and DIY around £25 a week. Full livery usually includes bedding and feed and things and depending on the agreement part livery will/willnot, if it does it will cost quite a bit more. DIY you will have to do all your own jobs and buy bedding, hay and feed seperate, some farms allow you to buy these off them, some do not. some farms are good and will only change DIY liveries say £1 a day to turn out or feed in an early morning, some do this for free and some will not at all if they are purely a DIY yard.

I ride 5 or 6 days a week usually (one or two of these days is a lungeing session.) Daily i groom, scrub feet out with anti bacterial hibi scrub and put on a daily hoof dressing. this usually takes about 20 - 30 mins. riding can be anything from 20 mins to an hour.

In summer my horse is out for about 8 - 9 hours during the day and in the stable at night. In winter she is out for about 5 hours in the day time.

Weekly i steam her over wearing thick rubber gloves useing a hot cloth that has been duncked n boiled water and all the water squeezed out, it make her nice a clean and shiny.
My YO has a worming program where there are worm counts ect and they are only wormed when it is needed. have your saddler refit saddles every 6 months. I clean my horses bit after each ride and clean my everyday bridle and saddle once a month and my show tack before every show.
Dont bath in winter unless it is a very mild day and you have a solarium, even then i wouldnt, useing a hot cloth on a clipped coat is just as good.
In summer i bath around 2 - 3 times a month as i am at shows. If not at shows once a month or something is fine.

Shoeing is every 5 - 6 weeks for me, just fronts and a trim on the backs, £35

Initial costs such as tack..
my nice show bridle is £180 but my every day one is £40 so its personal preferance what you spend on a bridle.
saddles vary a lot. to have a wintec GP or VSD type fitted this can be around £400? - £450 ( i think i cant remember very well) But for a really nice leater show saddle or WH saddle this can be around £650-1000. (i wouldnt bother spending any more than that as after the 1000 mark you cant tell the difference quality and looks wise.
grooming kit, not too expensive, the lotions and potions dont half add up though! fly spray and so on.
I know some people who can afford 5 horses as they are turned out all year round, dont do a lot of anything, dont compete, ride out twice a week and lead quite a natural life in the way that they are unshod and left to their own devices in the field, unrugged a lot of the time. And they spend a LOT less per month on their 5 then i do on my 2 horses (one of which is retired) It depends on where you keep them and what you do with them.

Good luck with getting a horse, you wont regret it :D
 
It really varies cost wise, I charge £160 a week for full livery, £120 a week for part, and the going rates locally for grass livery are £15 a week, and DIY livery £30 a week.

A breakdown of what two of mine cost me a year, to show you how much it can vary depending on the needs of the individual horse!

ROY ---

Feed:
Diamond Condition and Show Cubes - £7.99 a bag, one bag a week minimum
Mollichaff Showshine - £6.50 a bag, one bag a week
KwikBeet - £8.99 a bag, one bag a month
Blue Chip Original - £42 a bag, one bag a month
Corn Oil - £18 a 15L drum, one drum every two months
Haylage - £20 a large bale, one bale every two weeks throughout the year

Shoes:
One set every eight weeks - £60

Healthcare:
Chiropractor - £40 a session, one session a month
Dentist - £45 a session, once every six months
Vaccinations - £70, once a year
Worming - £25, every three months
Saddler - £20 a visit, every four months

He can't be insured as he's too old, so instead of paying out the £40 a month for insurance, I pay it into his bank account just in case he needs the vet for any reason. Add to all this the rugs he needs, which I buy constantly as he's such a cold horse, and all the other bits that add up like grooming kit, tools etc.

COULOIR -----

Feed:
Red Mills Cool n Cooked Mix - £9.50 a bag, one bag a month
Mollichaff Plus - £7 a bag, one bag a month

Shoes:
Turned away, so one trim every six weeks, £20


Healthcare:
Chiropractor - £40 a session, one session a month
Dentist - £45 a session, once every six months
Vaccinations - £70, once a year
Worming - £25, every three months
Insurance - £30 a month

Plus rugs and the odd treat!

It really does depend on the horse, what they're doing, and what they need!
 
I'll just tell you my story shall I? Started riding as a kid, helped at local RC and had a loan pony there until I was 17. Stopped riding until I was 22 then started lessons, had lessons for six months then got a share horse, share horse was a total school master so I made the fatal mistake of thinking I could ride :? Shared him for two years, then more lessons, then another share (again a total hacking school master).

Then by chance I was offered the chance to study for my NVQ2 in horse riding and care, it was free and I could fit it in around working full time, I was having 2-3 ridden lessons a week plus practical lessons in everything from feed, bandaging, field management and lunging. During my NVQ I totally fell in love with a 16hh ex-racehorse!

Just before finishing my NVQ my boss offered to sell me said ex-racer! :D

Doing the NVQ was the perfect thing to do before horse ownership, it's the same subjects covered in the BHS stage 2 and I learnt so much and my riding improved so much having so many lessons.

Have had my own horse six months now and we're doing okay :D (although I wouldn't suggest a six year old ex-racer for your typical first horse!)
 
my horse was expensive when i first bought him because he only had 2 ripped up rugs, a broom, few feed buckets and a storage box - he did have tack but it didnt fit properly - also this tack was all stolen 2 weeks after i brought him home my yard was burgled and all tack taken
so last year i have literally spent a small fortune buying grooming kit, rugs, lunging eqiuipment, new tack( my insurance didnt cover it) first aid kit, and extras like stable treats, grooming products etc
but now we are sorted cost are - diy livery, £75 - in winter i need hay which is about £12 pw - 4 bales, shavings approx £6 per week for 2 bags.
insurance is £60 pcm, hes barefoot and has a trim every 8 weeks which is £17.
Worming - about £20 every 12 weeks, teeth checked by vet annually (needs to be sedated) £100. Injections about £40 i think (cant honestly remember) but now ive og thim up to date - previous owner had let them lapse so hed to have full course - now its annually.
Hes a cob and doesn tneed feed in summer - in winter a bag cost £10 and lasts 6 weeks.
Chuck in a few carrots, mints, horsey licks and hes happy - and not that expensive now i have all the tack and eqipment he needs x
 
As for bills:
-DIY livery £130 a month
-Straw £12 a month
-Hay £30 a month
-Feed (Speedibeet & pony nuts) £15 a month
-Feet £45 every 6 weeks (barefoot trimmer)
-Insurance £35
-Vaccinations £60 a year
-Dentist £40 every six months
-Back £30 every six months or as required
-Supplements £30 a month (NAF Magic, Magnesium & Brewers Yeast)

Basics for him cost me about £250 a month so I budget £300-£350 a month.

I try and buy anything I need in the sales, tbh the problem with a first horse seems to be the total addiction to buying him new things

The biggest expense so far has been saddle! £425 for a new synthetic saddle, that didn't fit after a few months so we had to exchange it for a new one which cost me an extra £170.

Ooh and fly spray, spending a fortune on that at the momement!
 
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How much depends on what you want to do with your horse as to how much it costs! You can keep them very very cheaply or it can be very very expensive. You get what you pay for, facilities wise with horses. You could easily keep a cheap pony (no shoes, not fed etc) for under £100 a month all in, but you'd be unlikely to have any faculties to use (school, stables etc). Or you could have a big TB type on full livery at not far off £200 a WEEK, but that would be the best facilities and all the luxuries. What you got for depends on what you can afford and what!

As for being a novice - it would be invaluable experience to share a horse to begin with. You get a chance to learn all involved with keeping a horse, but without the ultimate responsibility. There are plenty of people out there who would be willing to let a novice loose on their horse if the money's right. For what you spend on 2 1hr lessons a week (about £50-60?) you could easily find a nice horse to share.

Once you've gained more experience with non-riding school horses (who are very different to most RS plods) you will have move knowledge and experience to go and get your own - you'll know the type of horse you want, and the field will be less limited (horses 'suitable for a novice' are hard to find, and expensive!)
 
The BHS says it costs as much to have a horse as running a car, but I suppose it depends on WHAT car.

I think the sharer idea is a really good one, there are often nice horses around to share, it would give you an introduction into horse keeping, you should learn lots yet you won't have the financial commitment,yet.

I am lucky to keep my horse at home but I certainly don't ride it every day. If they are turned out in a field for a good part of the day they don't need riding every day. If they are stabled all the time, though they do need exercise daily.

If you get round to buying your horse take this one piece of advice. Buy a horse that is NOW doing what you want it to do. Don't buy anything that has "potential" or is "without a rider." See it at a show, going down the main road, cantering across an open field, etc. etc, exactly what you want and need it to do.

Good luck.
 
im looking to buy my first horse too. ive learned to always have a horse vetted (obviously), take someone experienced with you when you're looking at horses and also never get on a horse that isnt shown to you previously; if the owner will not get on it and show you how it goes, do not even attempt to get on it, and say you're going home, and LEAVE. even if they say "ive got a bad back" so they cant ride, its probaby the horse that caused the problem!

and, also what im doing is before buying asking around my yard if there is anyone who would consider loaning it, just so you have some people interested and half the load :)

Good luck x
 
i second getting a share. There are people out there with loads of experience who you can learn from
Choose a good yard with a helpful approachable manager as there are so many things to learn when you get your own horse.
Get a good instructor, not all horses are like riding school horses.
Get the right horse, choose low maintanence horses can save a fortune and thats extra pennies to be spent on lessons.
Where in the country are you
 
I'm sorry I'm not going to answer your question, but I just wanted to say thank you for your post. I'm in a very similar situation - I've had ponies/horses on share before but am contemplating buying my own and was trying to work out costs/time etc so have been very interested in your replies.

Good luck in your hunt and let us know how you (and new horsey) get on.
xx
 
Thanks for all the replies - just catching up with them all.
I'm going to have a quick chat with my instructor tomorrow and see what she says.
I'm almost justifying it to myself by saying "Well I don't want kids, and I'm sure they cost a fortune so I can spend the money on a horse instead!"
Don't expect any updates in the near future. I'm totally not a spontaneous person so will probably still be 'thinking about it' this time next year.
For the person who asked where I am - I'm on the Somerset/Wiltshire border.
 
Good idea to speak to your instructor a few riding schools near Bath offer part loans but im guessing your on other side of them. Thats another option see if you instructor may know of any near you.
 
Hi!
I pay £180 a month DIY in south east inc hay and straw. Good facilities too. I ride most days depending on my shifts at work. In winter takes longer that summer as she lives out in summer.
Words of advice - be very sure what u want and don't be fooled into thinking the pony is perfect when it isn't. Take experienced horse owners with you to view ponies, and ask to loan before buying. I rushed into it and regretted it for a year, only after 18months is my mare lovely, well behaved and as I want her.
Good luck!
 
Right - the good news / bad news post.

Had a chat to my insructor and the yard manager last night. Instructor didn't fall over at the idea of me wanting a horse so I guess she thinks I'm capable.
YM said livery yard was full and she has to give priority to military anyway - although suggested working livery - hmmm..somthing to ponder on if it would allow me to get a place where I want (and cheaper too - but have herd horror stories about working livery but think I trust this place)
I also said to keep an eye out for anyone who is looking for a share / part loan. One of the grooms said her sister might (still very much a *might*) be looking for someone.
So the wheels are turning. Eek - just hope I don't lose my bottle!

As an aside - can anyone recommend a good stable management book that would cover all the basics and give me a good grounding?
 
Good for you, sounds like your taking positive steps towards your goals. Working Livery maybe good for your situation. I would ask the YO to explain to you what is involved, how much does your horse get used and is the livery cheaper?
Ive personally never been on working livery so I can't comment eitherway.
A good book would Stable Management by the BHS but have a mooch on the Internet as I'm sure there are loads out there. When you find one don't forget to have a look for it on Ebay as it might be cheaper on there!!!
Good luck.
 
Ooh loving the name Couloir!
Thanks for all the info.

Haha, she usually ends up being called Ratbag, or Coolyooly! She's very well bred daahhhlling, but didn't do terribly well considering her brother was an uber famous superstar racehorse! She won once because everything else fell....and now she's a field ornament.
 
Well I had my first day helping at the stables today and was pleased that I seemed to know more than I thought (too much time lurking on HHO!)
One of the grooms went through the basics of checking your horse over, feeding, field checks, tack checks and bedding and I seemed to either know the basics or it was common sense. I know there is loads more to learn but it's good to know I'm not starting at the very bottom.
I bought the Manual of Horsemanship and am reading it cover to cover. OH isn't getting much more than an occasional grunt out of me at the moment.
 
Well i started riding last year after a century break had several lessons thought about part loaning but bought my horse instead , im so glad i did i learnt everything quickly and came on loads , sometimes its the same price having your own and you have a free rein and ride when you want, so have a look and weigh up the pros and cons
 
If your RS is bhs approved then maybe ask them if they would be able to work with you so you can get your horse owners certificate the syllabus is here

http://www.bhs.org.uk/Training_and_...ations/Horse_Owners_Certificate/Syllabus.aspx

i would recommend a share as well to start off with and joining your local riding club as well with help you gain contacts, they may be able to recommend yards or know someone looking for a sharer. they often like helpers for events too which can help you learn and be fun.

i think the most important thing is to find a good yard which is friendly, safe and can give you support as you will need it not because you are just starting out but because with horses there are always going to be difficult times and it is good to have people round you that can help.

some people manage to keep horses very cheaply but that will depend on your livery options and i would think even on the cheapest grass livery you will need £200 a month to be sure that you can afford to cover emergencies as well.

i saved up a years livery before i bought my pony just to make sure i had plenty for emergencies - he is insured but you never know when your circumstances will change.

having a horse is wonderful most of the time but i find the extreme weather difficult - snow and heatwaves and when they are ill it is so worrying i have had plenty of sleepless nights.

i had ponies as a teenager at home and then did not have another till my mid 30s and am on grass livery and found so much had changed.

when looking for your first horse i think temperment is very important a friendly willing horse is going to be more fun around and if you need assistance it is much easier if you horse is easy to handle. make sure you get a vetting as well and try to buy from a person who has used the horse for activities that you want to do.
 
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