moneypit1
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This is what I get whe i ask for a bend???
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Gentle_Warrior
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is it me or are your stirrups on the short side, you seem to be perched up there !
I find lowering the hands help, keeping the contact soft, foward from behind and gentle squeeze the reins, but that is what works with H
sorry
x
I find lowering the hands help, keeping the contact soft, foward from behind and gentle squeeze the reins, but that is what works with H
sorry
x
lizzieuk1
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oftne they loose the bend and raise the head if they aren't going forward quite enough try to really push on through the bend and try not to over bend as this blocks the inside shoulder and then they can't come through on the bend.
H also went through a bit of this and still does occasionally but i know if i ride him more forward everything is much nicer.
hope that helps!
H also went through a bit of this and still does occasionally but i know if i ride him more forward everything is much nicer.
hope that helps!
horsegirl
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Your stirrups do look very short, unless you are jumping of course. I would put them down at least 2 holes
Partoow
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oh dear!!
Bend is not in the neck and needs to be ridden through connection to the hand through the whole body, from poll to hip. I need to make this a long one; firstly your position.
Riding with your knees up under your nose sitting in the back of the saddle does not help give you a stable 3 point seat. There needs to be a balance to your seat so that you can effect a balance in your horse and be able to support the horse forward from the back forward to the hand in both reins.
You need to have an inside leg tha activates the inside hind leg and an outside leg than supports and holds the outside hindleg on so that when you turn your shoulders and hips the horse should be allowed to follow and not step out with the outside hind.
the horse is not forward in the picture because there is no corridor of connection through to the bit , through the reins to a steady guiding hand. one that can hold and dirrect and is still relative to the horse not relative to you... imagine holding a tray of drinks in your hand and that tray must stay level and still so that you dont spill a drop. You can even take an old showing cane and hold it on the tops of your first finger and thumb, this will help you see to get bend you need to open the body to the inside [ rather like you turn the handle bars of a bike] and not block down and collapse out the back of the saddle which is something else you end up ding when you ride with such short stirrups. the hips need to be open so the knee is down and the ankle is under your hips with you elbow above the hips and the hands the same height and a shoulder width apart.
This is just the basic building block of position and you really need to look at the cause before you can really change the symptom.
Best advise is to get some good help from a trainer you can trust. Go and watch a few teach to see who you would like and take it from there.
Bend is not in the neck and needs to be ridden through connection to the hand through the whole body, from poll to hip. I need to make this a long one; firstly your position.
Riding with your knees up under your nose sitting in the back of the saddle does not help give you a stable 3 point seat. There needs to be a balance to your seat so that you can effect a balance in your horse and be able to support the horse forward from the back forward to the hand in both reins.
You need to have an inside leg tha activates the inside hind leg and an outside leg than supports and holds the outside hindleg on so that when you turn your shoulders and hips the horse should be allowed to follow and not step out with the outside hind.
the horse is not forward in the picture because there is no corridor of connection through to the bit , through the reins to a steady guiding hand. one that can hold and dirrect and is still relative to the horse not relative to you... imagine holding a tray of drinks in your hand and that tray must stay level and still so that you dont spill a drop. You can even take an old showing cane and hold it on the tops of your first finger and thumb, this will help you see to get bend you need to open the body to the inside [ rather like you turn the handle bars of a bike] and not block down and collapse out the back of the saddle which is something else you end up ding when you ride with such short stirrups. the hips need to be open so the knee is down and the ankle is under your hips with you elbow above the hips and the hands the same height and a shoulder width apart.
This is just the basic building block of position and you really need to look at the cause before you can really change the symptom.
Best advise is to get some good help from a trainer you can trust. Go and watch a few teach to see who you would like and take it from there.
Honeypots
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In my limited experienced opinion....
you need to turn your shoulders the way you want him to go..
keep your outside contact..leg and hand
use the outside track and think about leg yeilding into your corners
drop your stirrups down a few holes
keep your outside hand on the correct side..it looks like its crossing over. Try widening your hands..exaggerate it to get the right feel
basically..less hands more body from you
..hark at the expert...
you need to turn your shoulders the way you want him to go..
keep your outside contact..leg and hand
use the outside track and think about leg yeilding into your corners
drop your stirrups down a few holes
keep your outside hand on the correct side..it looks like its crossing over. Try widening your hands..exaggerate it to get the right feel
basically..less hands more body from you
..hark at the expert...
FMM
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Very briefly, it looks from that angle as though your legs are doing absolutely nothing, in which case the horse is understandably not inclined to co-operate! Looks like you are sitting very, very far back in the saddle with incredibly short stirrups. You haven't got a proper contact with either hand, so unless you are trying some sort of Parelli(!) then your horse doesn't understand.
Why not contact an instructor and start from there. He looks a nice horse in good condition, so don't waste him!
Why not contact an instructor and start from there. He looks a nice horse in good condition, so don't waste him!
moneypit1
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Thanks everyone, I was actually jumpng at the time so my stirrups were on the short side. i do find it hard though, Fly will fall out through the shoulder and i struggle to keep him 'straight'. I am constantly being told to shorten my reins but Fly hates it and grabs at me. (see photos on gallery). Oh boy do i need help! xx
wizzi901
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I thought this horse was too good for hunting in another post??!
(joking!!).
If you want bend you need to use your lower body as well, I am no expert but had exactly same problem with my ID. It took several months and lots of practice not just horse but ME!! - lower those stirrups as well!!
Good luck and dont give up!
If you want bend you need to use your lower body as well, I am no expert but had exactly same problem with my ID. It took several months and lots of practice not just horse but ME!! - lower those stirrups as well!!
Good luck and dont give up!
wkm
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Everyone seems to have given the same advice I would give too. You look like you are perched on the edge of a chair! The problem stems from your "position". Start by taking your feet out of the stirrups and sitting deep in the saddle with your back straight and shoulders square. Drop your legs right down as far as they will go and stretch that thigh out. Let your stirrups down between 2 and 4 holes and pop your feet in with your heels down. Be comfy. Bring your lower leg back so it is in line with your hip and shoulder and BREATHE deeply to open up your chest whlist getting your shoulders back. Relax!!
Take up a light contact on the reins and use your leg to yield Fly forward. I would strongly advise going back to basics with some lessons, and riding simply at a walk and trot maintaining a correct seat until you are confident in yourself, then try more complex moves.
You can do some basics at home. Stand side on to a mirror, legs apart and drop your weight forward towards your knees as if you were sat in the saddle and "rock your body" until by looking in the mirror you can see heel hip and shoulder in line. It will be much easier for you to feel it on your horse!!!
My position is much commented on in a positive way and were I able to be with you I know I could get you sat correctly in no time just by moving you about. You've got to want to do it though to be successful!!! Good luck.
Take up a light contact on the reins and use your leg to yield Fly forward. I would strongly advise going back to basics with some lessons, and riding simply at a walk and trot maintaining a correct seat until you are confident in yourself, then try more complex moves.
You can do some basics at home. Stand side on to a mirror, legs apart and drop your weight forward towards your knees as if you were sat in the saddle and "rock your body" until by looking in the mirror you can see heel hip and shoulder in line. It will be much easier for you to feel it on your horse!!!
My position is much commented on in a positive way and were I able to be with you I know I could get you sat correctly in no time just by moving you about. You've got to want to do it though to be successful!!! Good luck.
moneypit1
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Thanks everyone, I do tend to lean forward as well and as I take up a contact Fly "pulls" me forward even more. Actually that photo was taken during my lesson! My poor horse!