spotty_pony
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What symptoms aside from the obvious noise led you to investigate? Also, what exactly does it sound like? I have had a look on YouTube but cannot find any examples.
Those of you who have had experience with roarers...
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spacefaer
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Well the noise was a diagnosis in itself ??
Second diagnosis was getting him scoped..
It sounded like he was super puffed but at a very high volume. We went xc schooling once and my OH could hear him two fields away. It is a definite "roar" - think how you'd sound if the air going into your lungs was passing through a narrow restriction
He was limited with regards to the amount of fast exercise he could do- got tired more quickly/easily than you'd expect, was harder to get fit .... All related to the fact that he wasn't getting enough oxygen through to his system.
And the ultimate proof was the different horse we had after he'd had his hobday/tie back
Second diagnosis was getting him scoped..
It sounded like he was super puffed but at a very high volume. We went xc schooling once and my OH could hear him two fields away. It is a definite "roar" - think how you'd sound if the air going into your lungs was passing through a narrow restriction
He was limited with regards to the amount of fast exercise he could do- got tired more quickly/easily than you'd expect, was harder to get fit .... All related to the fact that he wasn't getting enough oxygen through to his system.
And the ultimate proof was the different horse we had after he'd had his hobday/tie back
AdorableAlice
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My heavyweight ID (18h) sounded like an old man on 100 Woodbines in trot. No exercise tolerance at all. He was noisy at 2 year old and I did ask for him to be dealt with then, but the vet at the time advised leaving him until he was 4.
He was no better at 4 and had successful tie back. The only difference is he could no longer shout for his breakfast and I was very careful how I fed him.
He was no better at 4 and had successful tie back. The only difference is he could no longer shout for his breakfast and I was very careful how I fed him.
spotty_pony
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Interesting as said horse gets very puffed after a trot and is very behind the leg. He is a Friesian and whilst I know they are not known for their stamina, for the level of fitness he is at, he shouldn't be getting so put of breath so easily. I have the Vet coming to vaccinate him next week so will be mentioning it then anyway. I wouldn't say he makes a high pitched noise, more like a panting dog noise.
AdorableAlice
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To be fair to him, he might not be behind the leg, he could be simply out of puff and the oxygen needed to fuel his muscles isn't getting to them so he can't go forwards.
If he has been fit despite making a noise but now is getting out of breath quickly he might be dirty.
AShetlandBitMeOnce
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Have you ever heard of someone who is either seriously out of breath or someone who has been winded rasping their breath on the intake? The ones I have met have sounded like that but louder.
ycbm
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Both mine made an obvious rough noise on inhalation. Both were scoped and had similar paralysis, one was operated on and it was the making of him, the other wasn't operable.
After the tie back.
Left side paralysis, you can see it collapsed on the right of this photo. (it's always the horse's left side because of how long that nerve is that controls it. )
After the tie back.
Left side paralysis, you can see it collapsed on the right of this photo. (it's always the horse's left side because of how long that nerve is that controls it. )
spotty_pony
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He has always been not willing to go forward, snorts like a dragon and gets out breath quicker but breathing seems to have got louder quickly... he is also worse when weather is warmer. What do you mean by dirty?
SEL
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I used to describe the micro cob as sounding like a rugby player who'd had their nose broken too many times. She used to run out of puff really, really quickly and would get obviously distressed.
It took 2 scopes to spot her windpipe collapsing but that coincided with it getting worse. Shot a video for the specialist where I was asked to record at beginning, mid of session and then as much as she could do. Had to call a halt at 10 mins and the surgeon said it was only her good nature that meant she kept up trot for that long she sounded so rough.
He could tell from the noise that it was likely a soft palate distortion too. Hobday was an immediate success but the soft palate cauterization less so - ridden bitless now and is pretty much fine. A bit snotty sounding at times.
It took 2 scopes to spot her windpipe collapsing but that coincided with it getting worse. Shot a video for the specialist where I was asked to record at beginning, mid of session and then as much as she could do. Had to call a halt at 10 mins and the surgeon said it was only her good nature that meant she kept up trot for that long she sounded so rough.
He could tell from the noise that it was likely a soft palate distortion too. Hobday was an immediate success but the soft palate cauterization less so - ridden bitless now and is pretty much fine. A bit snotty sounding at times.
spotty_pony
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Interesting. Did yours open her mouth too as an evasion? Was she heavier on one rein than the other?
SEL
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She would over bend - literally tuck her head in so tight you'd have nothing in front of you. I'd throw the reins at her but it was obviously discomfort because she'd start tossing her head around. I got off many times during the investigations because she'd get so stressed. Not had that at all since I took the bit away and although she's unfit trot work under saddle is now normal unfit rather than feeling she's going to collapse!
Much, much harder on the left rein which has improved although still her worst rein. She's happier in herself too thankfully. I think not being able to breath properly must be incredibly stressful.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
One vet told me many of them are difficult to get weight on and attributed it to the stress of being a preyed upon animal which knows it can't run fast enough.
My horse I had operated on was almost impossible to hack, he was such a stressed about new things soaring (like daffodils!). He was never brilliant but certainly a lot better after the tie-back operation.
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