Thoughts on these hooves?

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Here's my story:

Rosie (20yr old TB) had winter off and shoes were taken off in September last year. But out in field 24/7 with no hard ground and was not being fed barefoot diet. In Jan she started being brought back into light work, and decided I wanted to see how she'd fair with no shoes. Generally we hack out with the occasional schooling session, she has boots in front with very thin gel pads and bare behind and is coping really well.

Currently she is being strip grazed 24/7 and slowly building up a track system grazing is average, on the north downs so chalky soil with a variety of plants. She gets hay when she needs it and she comes in for a couple of hours each day. She is trimmed every 8 weeks by a farrier. I have been dealing with thrush in her front two hooves for a while they are improving slowly, I scrub them every day and spray with a tea tree oil solution and get all muck out with a cotton bud. I do not want to use anything stronger incase it damages the surrounding hoof. She can still be sore on gravel on her fronts without her boots I put that down to grass mainly and also the thrush. She has very mild cushings and is having half a tablet of prascend a day along with:

Fastfibre
Linseed
Salt
Devils claw
Magox
Multi vitamin

I have gone from a yard where pretty much everyone apart from a couple were barefoot to a livery on a fairly traditional yard where I am the only one! I swear they must think I'm mad, but they were very impressed on my hack today to see my mare striding out in front as they came slipping and sliding down the road!

I basically would just like some comments on how you think shes getting on, and any improvements that could be made!

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You could pick faults with most hooves via pics - white line a bit stretched, flaring (worse around quarters), frog and quarters still look a little wimpy, heels still contracted and running under, soles a bit flat and possible signs of landing toe-first......

But the proof is in the eating and if she is sound and happy.....then it doesn't really matter what they look like. :)

She'll have been shod for years and she has Cushings.....you are never going to get 'textbook' hooves :p Same with my old boy.

Movement and time can only bring greater strength externally and internally.

If you hit a bump - then review diet first. Sometimes a tweak is needed. I know my old boy's hooves got much better when I put him on balanced minerals - even though he had a good, 'BF diet' beforehand.
 
Hi Oberon thanks, yeah she's been in shoes all her life and shes a fairly old lady now so its a big ask! Her frogs were really contracted but have opened up a lot, (wish I had taken some 'before' pics, that would have really interesting) You can now fit a hoof pick inbetween them which you couldn't do last year! Her soles are still fairly flat, but her hinds are slowly becoming more concave and where her soles were previously thin now they are thicker and more sturdy.

No she doesn't have the heel first landing that I would like her to have, but tbh I have no idea what to do to improve that aspect.
My next step is to have her forage balanced, its just so costly I kind of need to gear myself up for it!
I'm just not sure if there is anything else mangement wise I could do to help her?
 
My next step is to have her forage balanced, its just so costly I kind of need to gear myself up for it!
I'm just not sure if there is anything else mangement wise I could do to help her?

http://trelawneequine.wordpress.com...ks-to-dengie-horse-feeds-and-trelawne-equine/ Here you go :) Dengie are doing a 20% off thing. :D

Dengie’s forage analysis service normally costs £20 for the basic analysis which includes protein, fibre and oil, or £30 for the comprehensive test which includes minerals. However the company is offering 20% off this price to customers that quote the code.

So it'll be £24 for the mineral one, which is loads cheaper than anywhere else i've seen. Might not be AS comprehensive as others, but it's got all the main ones. :)

Minerals analysed include calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, sodium, chloride, potassium, sulpher, copper, iron, manganese, cobalt, zinc and selenium. In addition to this CAB levels will be identified.

http://www.dengie.com/pages/feed-advice/forage-analysis.php
 
No she doesn't have the heel first landing that I would like her to have, but tbh I have no idea what to do to improve that aspect.
My next step is to have her forage balanced, its just so costly I kind of need to gear myself up for it!
I'm just not sure if there is anything else mangement wise I could do to help her?

She won't/can't walk heel first on a weak caudal hoof. The back needs to strengthen (internally and externally) before it can carry her comfortably.

Getting rid of thrush will make her more comfortable and work and movement will strengthen her hoof. Movement will also stimulate her to create more tissue at a rate faster than the thrush can eat it.

Diet will give her the building blocks to lay down more resistant tissue too.

So just carry on what you are doing and give her time.

She may need some help on the mineral front. Either forage analysis or use one of the good generic supplements (Pro Hoof/Pro Balance +/Equimins META Balance/ForagePlus Balancer).

My old boy has been BF for 9 years (shod previously for 13 years). He has had the best hoof care, the best diet.....and he still refuses to land heel first on hard ground :mad: He lands laterally.
But he is a happy hacker and at 26 - he is semi-retired and I'm not about to make a fuss. He is sound and always has been....so it's tough if I don't like it :p.
 
They don't look dissimilar to my TB's feet. Weak caudal hoof and flat soles being the main problem... I found diet modifications (specifically adding the Forage Plus winter balancer) helped significantly, even though the horse was on box rest, so getting no movement. He is now turned out, and I am hoping for even more improvements... If the grass doesn't get us!

So, diet and excercise are key - provided the horse is comfortable ;). I think you may be unlikely to see huge improvements until she is landing correctly, so getting rid of the thrush 100% will also be key.
 
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