peaceandquiet1
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I am interested in using this but it seems expensive....is it worth it? Anyone got any views please.
Thunderbrook feed
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BBP
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I love the thunderbrooks hay cobs as they are 4% sugar and starch so I can feed them liberally in treat balls or as treats. The chaff smells lovely and went down well to start with but this sack had a mouldy patch (I can't say it wasn't damaged whilst stored at ours) whilst the patch was removed my horse now feels the whole bag is tainted and won't eat any of it. The other horses are still eating it happily but they are greedier!
splash30
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I feed the hay cobs and my horse loves them, I previously fed simple systems and had a battle to get him to eat now scoffs it down, plus has more energy than before. I'm converted can you tell.
Mrskyfall
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My horses love it. They are both barefoot, one very good doer and one not so good. In winter, I feed them base mix and their chaff and every tiny bit is licked clean. Even with the not so good doer, I have never had to feed their recommended amount as he keeps his weight really well. I used to feed SS, but one has an allergy to alfalfa. They are incredibly helpful and no question to them is too silly, ( believe me, I know!) I would not feed mine anything else, it's brill stuff.
Ooh, I sound like I work for them, honestly, I don't!
Ooh, I sound like I work for them, honestly, I don't!
Leo Walker
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Whereas I and several other people I know have found them rude in the extreme. I wouldnt feed it if it was the last food on earth, partly because of the rudeness and partly because of the ingredients.
M&M&G
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Interested to know the issues with the ingredients.
peaceandquiet1
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Yes me too
Casey76
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I wouldn't feed it based upon the lack of information given regarding the hay cobs.
Follysmum
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I used the herbal chaff after having problems getting hold of Agrobs. I however now have a local ish supplier of Agrobs so will go back to them.
I do think Tb as a company come across very unprofessional with all the silly childish remarks on facebook. Very quick to slag off other forums, companies etc. I do not believe any professional business should conduct their views etc like this. It is very off putting and not good marketing.
I do think Tb as a company come across very unprofessional with all the silly childish remarks on facebook. Very quick to slag off other forums, companies etc. I do not believe any professional business should conduct their views etc like this. It is very off putting and not good marketing.
peaceandquiet1
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Follysmum I haven't seen any of this, and don't like the sound of it either.
Follysmum
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If you ask about TB on the Phoenix barefoot forum, no one seems to have a good word for this company either.
Mrskyfall
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I was unaware of the rudeness to people. That doesn't sound good at all.
jodie3
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I use it for my two and am very happy with it.
My very picky pony loves the hay cubes and will eat them before anything else.
I thought all the ingredients were listed?
I have spoken to them in person and on the phone and have always found them very helpful. Their delivery service is very quick and efficient too.
I haven't seen any childish comments on Facebook and have always found them very professional. (No, I don't work for them either!)
My very picky pony loves the hay cubes and will eat them before anything else.
I thought all the ingredients were listed?
I have spoken to them in person and on the phone and have always found them very helpful. Their delivery service is very quick and efficient too.
I haven't seen any childish comments on Facebook and have always found them very professional. (No, I don't work for them either!)
Leo Walker
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Theres also been posts removed after TB threatened all sorts. I was PM'ed by someone who it turns out was TBs pretending to be just another forum member, fishing for information on another forum. They were shockingly rude to my friend on the phone as well. But the main issue for me at least was on a FB group. I am by far the only one to have been on the receiving end of extreme rudeness.
I am shocked that this hasnt been pulled yet as I have no doubt TB are on here monitoring this.
As for the ingredients, if you can get them to tell you whats in it, you'll realise its not as good as they like to make out!
googol
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That's really disappointing, I have just started using it and horses are enjoying it and I felt I was doing right by them. They get a fair amount of the healthy chaff as I feed it before riding each day so I'm concerned. What chaff do you feed instead?
NOISYGIRL
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My horse wont eat any chop but my friend bought a bag and it smelled lovely, he ate a handful of it from her, I luckily managed to get a sample bag from local supplier before purchasing it and he wouldn't eat it, he is VERY fussy so I wasn't surprised, he did however like the hay cobs and as he can't have any of the treats you can buy he's been having them as treats. Would be interested in what is in it if that's the case though as I don't want to risk anything
Pocketr@cket
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I feed their chaff and thought it wa made of better stuff than a lot of other chaffs. I've spoken to both members of staff and they have always been very helpful face to face ; however when asking if I could arrange a collection or delivery as friend lives very close I was pointed to the local stockist listing. I never replied and a few weeks later I was sent another message asking had I managed to get everything I required. Possibly different people ?
Horse likes it and seems to smell nice and keep well.
Horse likes it and seems to smell nice and keep well.
galaxy
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I've been feeding my mare their muesli and half rations base mix and daily essentials since March and it's made a big difference to my girl who has suffered for recurrent gassy colics and is frequently bloated.
I don't know why people have issues finding the ingredients. They are clearly listed on their website and bags for the products I have used.
When I spoke to them in the phone initially I found them a little confusing as they told me about a lot of products at once. But they weren't rude. Just need to keep things more simple!
I'm on a fb ulcer site and people rave about it on there. It's free from all chemicals, as well as alfalfa, molasses, beet, magnesium oxide etc which can upset some horses.
I don't know why people have issues finding the ingredients. They are clearly listed on their website and bags for the products I have used.
When I spoke to them in the phone initially I found them a little confusing as they told me about a lot of products at once. But they weren't rude. Just need to keep things more simple!
I'm on a fb ulcer site and people rave about it on there. It's free from all chemicals, as well as alfalfa, molasses, beet, magnesium oxide etc which can upset some horses.
galaxy
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https://thunderbrook.co.uk/product/healthy-herbal-chaff-15-kg/
Ingredients listed and nothing to be worried about in there.
galaxy
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https://thunderbrook.co.uk/product/hay-cobs-5kg/
I don't feed the hay cobs but these are the listed ingredients on the hay cobs.
Amicus
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I think they only started listing ingredient after lots of demand and were initially quite rude to the people asking reasonable questions, there attitude may well have improved.
galaxy
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Fair enough �� I've only been using it since March.
I also wouldn't touch a feed that didn't publish ingredients. It's surprisingly common place. Top spec Ulsakind cubes often come up for discussion on the Fb ulcer page, they don't publish the ingredients which I found surprising! Once investigated it's be had there are a few ingredients what you would normally really avoid in them if you have digestive issues.
criso
Coming over here & taking your jobs since 1900
That was my experience a few years back when I was trying to do food exclusion on a horse suffering from allergies, they wouldn't tell me. It may have been on the bag but you want to know what's in it before it arrives not after you've bought it.
Were also extremely unhelpful when I enquired about the organic wheat bran ( I was already feeding bran and liked the idea of switching to an organic version.) They wanted to sell me their base mix which was completely wrong for my forage and when it was clear I wasn't interested in this so then they weren't very interested in being helpful to me. Last experience, one of the owners was extremely rude on a facebook group I had just joined when I didn't know who he was. Always nice being called stupid and unable to use facebook on a public group.
I think one of the issues with the ingredients is there are mixed feelings on feeding rice bran. Never fed it myself so don't have an opinion either way.
Casey76
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I don't have an issue with the ingredients of the hay cobs, but the feeding advice is severely lacking. There is a significant choke risk feeding unsoaked hay cobs in volume, especially to horses with compromised teeth. CUrrently there is no advice about introducing slowly, or about recpmmended soaking volumes, or even about what volume of cobs is equivalent to how much hay, if you are using as a hay replacer.
FOr the other products, although they boast about not using wheat feed as a filler, they do use rice bran as a filler, which is just as crap as wheat feed - I.e. A byproduct and significantly processed.
galaxy
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Yes rice bran is a by product but it is a feed I rate, there are benefits of feeding it, it's not just a pointless cheap filler. I have known people to feed equijewel and it has transformed horses as its a very digestible conditioning feed.
http://www.understanding-horse-nutrition.com/rice-bran.html
Each to their own.
D66
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Ive been using it for a year now, the ingredients were listed on the internet then. The horses condition has improved greatly and their feet are better too, so I'm very happy with it. One wouldn't touch it the first day, but cleaned up the second. One of the horses is less girthy, the other, an elderly TB keeps condition better.
I dont do much on Facebook, so won't have seen any of that. When I've phoned they have been helpful.
I dont do much on Facebook, so won't have seen any of that. When I've phoned they have been helpful.
Fransurrey
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Same. Their dodgy marketing ethic put me off too.
ellie_e
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I use the herbal museli, its great, fussy ulcer mare loves it
ester
Not slacking multitasking
Their legal threats to others who dare suggest that their products, in particular their base mix which some really don't get on with, might not be the perfect solution for EVERY horse on every grazing kind of puts me off ever dealing with them.
DJ
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I feed the herbal chaff and wouldn`t use anything else now. I also like the hay cobs. I have found them very helpful any time I have needed to speak with them, particularly when I had a poorly youngster.