Merlin had Tildren for his hocks.... had it last july and has stayed sound since, but he also had them injected (spavins) so not sure which did most good.
What does tildren do I was offered it for my horse spavins but he had surgery.I cant remember what the vet said about tildren other than it was a new drug that hadnt been fully approved( correct me I might be wrong on this)and can cause colic.
I wonder what the cost difference is between surgery and tildren .So far my bill is over £3000.
Not sure how it works, but Tildren is administered via a drip, with horse being closely monitored, so the drip can be slowed up or stopped if necessary, as they found (in France, I believe) if injected too quickly it can cause the horse to have a heart attack. Some animals have also had colic after treatment. It is thought to be a benefit in all boney conditions especially Kissing Spine and Spavins.
My friends horse had it a few months ago, but not sure that it's made any difference.
I paid about 1k for the tildren..... it has to be administered slowly as there is a risk of colic and collapse..... rare though i believe. Infact Liphook run the drip for at least an hour (they have had a case of collapse from it and are only prepared to do it in their hospital) but my vet did it at the yard over about 20 mins!!!! Merlin was sedated and was fine.
It inhibits the bony growth associated with arthritic changes, but not sure how long it is effective for.
Thats interesting I couldnt remember everything the vet said about tildren,think I was a bit upset with the diagnosis at the time.At least they have some options for arthritis now ,cant wait for the 19th to see if the surgery has improved his condition.
My horse had Tildren for Kissing Spine. He had 4 doses, given 6 weeks apart or more, at the Hospital. Each treatment took about 1 1/2 hours to administer. At the end of 6 months of treatment he showed no improvement at all and has been retired from flatwork to a hacking home where he is very happy. It can cause colic during or shortly after administration which is why it is normally given at the vet's, my horse was kept in for a couple of hours after the first treatment for observation. On subsequent visits he was sent home straight away, the vet said that as he hadn't colicked on the first visit he was unlikely to on later ones.
My horse was diagnosed with spavin around 2003. The vet (very senior and well respected) at Bell Equine told me he wouldn't recommend Tildren in this particular case. It is more effective in some stages/types of spavin than others.
Weird isnt it, I assumed that you wanted the bones to fuse in spavin cases and thought that the Tildren would prevent this from happening..... that said I allowed Merlin to have treatment for his spavins.
Not really sure if I understand the way it works correctly.
Did you have any treatment for hock fusion..My horse had surgery 5 weeks ago I could do with some positive feedback hes had so many injuries Im wondering if he will ever come sound.
No surgery - I was offered the choice of surgery, steroid injections, conservative work with bute....They said it was unlikely he'd ever be anything more than a hack.
Well, several years on, after conservative work, a really good joint supplement he is totally sound but can look a little stiff until warmed up. He competes dressage and showing and copes well.
I decided against surgery because my horse is a strong persona and I didn't think he's cope with the box rest.
He had some steroid injections, they didn't seem to do anything in his case.
My mare had tildren on 11th December for hock spavin, it was given over an hour in the vet hospital as they wanted to mnitor her for the possible colic side effects. Since then she has been sound and is back hacking, schooling and even some small jumps. She was a milder case of spavin which I think was one of the reasons they thought she was suitable for the treatment.
Thanks the surgery has a good prognosis some of the horses that have had it are competing.As he is only 6 I thought I would try and give him the best chance.Lots of people have told me to sell him and move on but hes my first horse and Im a soft touch and too attached.Box rest went well considering hes spirited (tb) my problems will be when he comes back into work ,Ill need sticky jods again.We will stick to njs seems good supplement .
Thanks
My vet has given me the option of this drup for star as diagnosed mild spavin today...just waiting to see blood results etc and then go from there. Interesting to read other results
tildren slows down the bone degeneration to allow the regeneration to catch up, apparently. Our horse had it 3 weeks ago for navicular but i am told we have to wait 3 months to have a repeat mri to see if it has worked. our bill is also megga, it is running at £2200 so far! Not that it matters if he gets better, its just that it is still on trial in the uk so its early days yet. no real guarantee that it will make any difference but it is the only option we have been given.
tildren shouldnt be useful for spavin as it slows the bone resorption but doesnt help the cartilage so wont repair the damage done. however, in some cases of arthritis where bone resorption is the major driver of the damage and the cartilage hasnt been degenerated it seems to help. they still arent really sure about it yet which is why it is still being researched. for the majority of spavin fusion is still the ultimate aim and tildren doesnt help this.