Timescale - vetting to selling

[juliette1968]

I am trying to arrange vetting and transport for a new horse. I haven't done any of this before and wondered how quickly after the vetting you get the results back. If the vetting is done on Monday would I know the results straight away? Or would I need to wait for bloods results? Could I provisionally book transport for the next day? Help!

 

[conniegirl]

Normally bloods are only tested if there is a problem after the sale. They will normally take the bloods only if you request it and then store them for a set length of time.
For a normal 5stage you should know the same day, if xrays are involved sometimes it can be the next morning.

 

[oldie48]

I have a 5 stage and like to attend so the vet can talk over anything he finds with me. Horses don't pass or fail in my view but the vet may find something that he considers makes the horse unsuitable for purchase. Bloods are normally taken and kept for six months, I think and the main purpose is to exclude and sedatives or pain killers were used prior to the vetting so you don't have to wait for this as usually they are never checked unless there is a problem post vetting. So yes,, expect to get the results as soon as the vetting is finished. If you can't be there I would make sure the vet can talk to you by phone and on that basis I think you could provisionally book transport and keep your fingers crossed.

 

[9tails]

Strangles test can take a week, you should have the results of the vetting either on the day or the morning after. Bloods aren't tests, but are taken on a 5 stage vetting.

 

[conniegirl]

Strangles test can take a week, you should have the results of the vetting either on the day or the morning after. Bloods aren't tests, but are taken on a 5 stage vetting.

Strangles tests are not a normal part of a vetting. I don't know many people who bother with them as they are highly likely to give false positives.

 

[Dyllymoo]

I had a horse 5 stage vetted recently. Ideally try and be there so that you can discuss things with your vet as and when/ if they pop up when the vetting is being undertaken. At least speak to the vet before the vetting is done to make sure they understand what you would like to do with the horse etc.

The vetting will take a couple of hours usually. If I haven't been able to be there the vet has phoned me straight away (or if there is ever an issue) and gone through what has been found. They then advise if the horse is fit for what I would like to do (i.e. fit for purpose).

Previously I have attended the vetting and taken the horse home straight after, and also haven't been able to attend but taken the horse home that evening, but I do have my own transport. I would phone some transport companies and explain re: vetting and book for the next day so that you can let them know a definite yes or no.

The bloods are taken if requested (I did for both of mine) and kept for 6 months I think and only tested if you request it separately (usually only if something is not quite right etc when you bring home).

I got the vetting certificate/ notes when I was there handed over and when I wasn't emailed to me that afternoon.

How exciting

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

Definitely try and be there.
Also, check with the vet that if there is anything of great concern at any point, then they can stop the vetting. A friend had this only last week, the vet found 2 sarcoids one of which was on horses sheath, the other between the front legs. Friend wasn't willing to take another horse with them, so vetting stopped even before tack went on and adjustment made to costings to her.

Sometimes I've gone with the box to a vetting, if all good then have paid and taken away. Usually you will be expected to collect within a few days. When I was selling I gave them 5 days from vetting to collect, then another 5 days on livery charges if not collected.

Happy shopping!

 

[hopscotch bandit]

I am trying to arrange vetting and transport for a new horse. I haven't done any of this before and wondered how quickly after the vetting you get the results back. If the vetting is done on Monday would I know the results straight away? Or would I need to wait for bloods results? Could I provisionally book transport for the next day? Help!

I've had five horses vetted now and wasn't there for any of them, but my Dad was. Dad was able to ring me after the last two to tell me they had passed, before those it was so long ago neither of us had mobile phones and I had to wait until Dad used a payphone to ring me at work or got home and rang me! The wait nearly killed me lol.

You keep the blood in a fridge and it can be tested if the horse plays up when you bring it home, i.e it displays uncontrollable behaviour. I believe you have a six month window to test it. Trouble is people forget how some horses will stress on moving to a new home, or they won't work it so hard, if at all, feed it on all manner of rich and energy fueling feed and wonder why it turns into the devil.

It has been known to deliberately remove water from a horse for 24 hours prior to a potential purchaser trying out a horse as this has a sedative effect on them so you should always try to see the horse in its usual stable and check it has access to water and that the stable doesn't have bite marks all over it as it could be a crib biter/windsucker.

They could also do this prior to a vetting I suppose to make it seem less spooky or calmer.

I've never had a horse fail a vetting and if I found a horse I really like I would be sceptical if it failed the flexion test and would take advice from the vet on the best way to proceed as I believe at one point the RCVS wanted to phase out flexion tests as they felt they could give false readings.

I've always collected within 24-48 hours and had it insured before collecting. But someone had a brilliant point on here the other day and said they insured from as soon as they put a deposit down on a horse as the 14 days you can't claim for certain things on some policies is then ticking down. Fabby tip which I shall remember with my next one!

Good luck and enjoy! x

 

[juliette1968]

Thanks everyone. I have a vetting sorted for Friday pm. The livery yard is on stand-by and a friend is able to collect him Saturday providing all goes well. Fingers crossed.

 

[oldie48]

Good luck, I hope it all goes well.

 

[9tails]

Strangles tests are not a normal part of a vetting. I don't know many people who bother with them as they are highly likely to give false positives.

Really? My yard won't accept a horse without one.

 

[Leo Walker]

Really? My yard won't accept a horse without one.

I've only ever been on one yard that asked for them. Ironically the worst run hell hole I've ever had the misfortune to be at. I am surprised that more dont ask for testing though!

 

[conniegirl]

Really? My yard won't accept a horse without one.

In 30 years of owning horses ive never been asked for one.

Do your yard ask for one every time you return from competing or isolate every horse that competes? if not then it is pointless as horses are just as likely if not more likely to pick it up at competitions as they are prior to purchase

 

[hopscotch bandit]

Really? My yard won't accept a horse without one.

Gosh I should think that horses are more likely to pick up or transmit EHV than Strangles given that over a third of the population are carriers of EHV and latest findings suggest that 80-90% of horses are infected prior to reaching 2 years of age.

As for the Strangles vaccine. I remember when Strangles was going around the area and our local vets suggested our horses were vaccinated, if we did a group booking it was a lot cheaper. Many horses on our yard were poorly the same day, very depressed, off their feeds, heads hung low, some had mild colic and one horse had a bad reaction and ended up with an enlarged heart. Our vet contacted the manufacturer of the drug as he believed it was possibly a faulty batch and they withdrew it, accepted liability and ended up paying one of our liveries for all the vet call outs for ECG monitoring and treatment for her horse as a result . Our vet said he would never vaccinate another horse with the strangles vaccine again.

I didn't have it for my horse as fortunately she was on anti b's at the time so I was told she couldn't have it.

 

[9tails]

Gosh I should think that horses are more likely to pick up or transmit EHV than Strangles given that over a third of the population are carriers of EHV and latest findings suggest that 80-90% of horses are infected prior to reaching 2 years of age.

As for the Strangles vaccine. I remember when Strangles was going around the area and our local vets suggested our horses were vaccinated, if we did a group booking it was a lot cheaper. Many horses on our yard were poorly the same day, very depressed, off their feeds, heads hung low, some had mild colic and one horse had a bad reaction and ended up with an enlarged heart. Our vet contacted the manufacturer of the drug as he believed it was possibly a faulty batch and they withdrew it, accepted liability and ended up paying one of our liveries for all the vet call outs for ECG monitoring and treatment for her horse as a result . Our vet said he would never vaccinate another horse with the strangles vaccine again.

I didn't have it for my horse as fortunately she was on anti b's at the time so I was told she couldn't have it.

Strangles test, not vaccine. Maybe it's just a thing round my way, no yard I know takes horses that aren't tested.

 

[hopscotch bandit]

Strangles test, not vaccine. Maybe it's just a thing round my way, no yard I know takes horses that aren't tested.

I know they do a blood test these days instead of faffing around with nasal swab. I think the nasal swabs were 3 negative in a row and you were ok, but that was back in 1995.

I've been on a number of yards, for various durations: 4 years, 12 months, five years, ten years, 6 months, 2 years and this current one 4 years and never been told on any of them that we have had to have such a test so it must be just in your area like you say. What a nightmare!

 

[Foxychops]

The horse I have now is the only horse I have ever had vetted. I had a 2 stage and asked for bloods to be taken. The vet rang me straight after the vetting.

 

[Leo Walker]

Strangles test, not vaccine. Maybe it's just a thing round my way, no yard I know takes horses that aren't tested.

I was talking about tests. Is there even a vaccine anymore? There was, but no one seems to have it, so not sure its even available anymore.

 

[Gloi]

I would be there at the vetting if you possibly can. That way you can discuss the results with the vet and talk about any concerns while you, the vet and the horse are still in the same place.

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

Thanks everyone. I have a vetting sorted for Friday pm. The livery yard is on stand-by and a friend is able to collect him Saturday providing all goes well. Fingers crossed.

Any update?

 

[juliette1968]

Any update?

He sailed through the vetting (took the advice and attended in person)and he was delivered yesterday afternoon. Seems to be settling in well and we are all thrilled with him.

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

He sailed through the vetting (took the advice and attended in person)and he was delivered yesterday afternoon. Seems to be settling in well and we are all thrilled with him.

Excellent update, wishing you all the best with him x