Timewasters!!

dancingkris

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I will try and keep this short – but just needed to vent as I am so angry!!

I have 2 horses – one a retired older boy and a youngster. I had just started on the youngsters education when I found out I was pregnant so decided to get a sharer for him. The guy I have is fab and a qualified instructor so I have fallen on my feet with him. The yard we are on is lovely, however has no ménage or access to hacking so my sharer was not really getting very far with my horse and we decided that it was for the best that he found somewhere for him with better facilities. We found a nice little yard local to both of us (advertised on here funnily enough!!) that could also accommodate the old boy so we didn’t have to split them up and everything seemed perfect. It would be the YM’s horses and ours only.

We visited the new yard again on Monday evening to sort everything out and agreed again which stables we’d be having (internal ones with a storage area at the front of the stable) and the new YM – lets call her R - agreed that she’d use my sharer for lessons and even asked if he’d school her horse for her. She gave us the gate codes and we agreed to start moving some stuff in over the next few days. The cost for the 2 stables was £50 per week as we’re on DIY. We left there really happy and looking forward to the move and all seemed great with them. I would also say this point she was aware as we had mentioned that the youngster did very occasionally windsuck but only when he was excited and but he didn’t chew wood etc . She seemed fine about it and said her old horse used to eat his stable and their little ‘quirks’ were what made them all different.

On Tuesday night R texted me asking for my email address to send the contract to and seemed pleased that we’d sorted out transport for the boys for Saturday morning.

Yesterday evening around 7pm I was at the current yard packing up my stuff in preparation for starting to move over today. I then received a phone call from R’s partner, G, who admits he’s not really horsey, stating that they had had a think about things and decided that my 2 horses would be going in the 2 stables which were outdoor (which we’d never seen) as opposed to the indoor ones we’d agreed on. I decided to go down to see him/the stables rather than discussing on the phone, and met him there with my sharer. When we got there the padlock had been changed from the code lock to an ordinary padlock which I though a bit odd given that we’d agreed to move stuff over this week. The stables in question were very small and low – certainly not as big as the ones we’d agreed on and the price was £45 per week for the 2 stables. I said I would prefer to stick to the original plan however if that was OK with them. G said he’d talk to R (who wasn’t at the yard at the time) and call me. He rang 30 mins later and stated it was those stables or nothing. I had a chat with my sharer and we agreed that we’d take them, but felt the stables were worth £40 per week and on the proviso that we had an internal stable to store our stuff. Again he said he’d speak to R and let me know. I asked if R could call me directly to discuss rather than going through him as a ‘middle man’. I also stressed what an awkward position we now found ourselves in and that for the goalposts to be moved at such a late stage was a bit worrying and not a good start to our relationship. I had given notice at my current yard, and my stables were let so I hoped we could come to some arrangement with them. I then received a text at 9pm just saying ‘sorry for any inconvenience but we’ve decided to leave it’ – so therefore as of Saturday my boys are homeless!!

We tried to call them both but neither of them would answer the phone, however my sharer did text R and she replied to say it was G (the unhorsey one!) who made the final decision and it was down to the fact that my young boy occasionally windsucked and he didn’t want their horses to ‘catch’ this.

We are now in the horrible position of having to find 2 stables at very short notice and I am already stressed to the hilt and with pregnancy hormones etc this is the last thing I need!! I understand that people change their mind about things but I think the way that they have done this is very underhand and unprofessional. At the end of the day we had a verbal contract which in my book counts for a lot. The fact that R couldn’t even speak to me herself and got her partner to do her dirty work speaks volumes.

We are going to look at a yard this evening which hopefully will fit the bill but is considerably more expensive and further away and I am just devastated that this has happened when we thought we’d found the perfect place.

I’m not sure as to whether I’m asking for advice – or just a sympathetic ear really – and I’m sorry that I haven’t been able to keep this short either!! Nor do I have any goodies on offer – only flippin Gaviscon liquid!!
 
It does make you question why we bother on occasions doesn't it!?!

I know this isn't what you want or need but the only slither of bright side is they've shown their true colours now before your horses were caught up in it.
Sweeping generalisation I know but I honestly am sick to the back teeth of livery issues. I've seen some amazing behaviour over last year or so. I don't know about where you are but here demand is so much greater than the supply that even the worst yards constantly fill up albeit with a high turnaround once people realise what kind of mad house they've joined.

Not sure if it will make you feel any better but I pay £50pw per stable on DIY (I have 3!) and I'm living in constant hope of a lottery win and acquiring a house with land somewhere where the nearest neighbour is about 5 miles away! (oh god and I can't even blame my bad temper on hormones! :-()

Good luck and I'm sure you'll sort something for the horses x
 
Best of luck, & agree wit BB, better to find out before you've moved. If she'll do the dirty like this, you don't know what else she would have done if you had moved.

Just remember she's lost out more than you, who still has a great sharer & your two boys. Hope new yard works out.
 
It's very unfortunate that things didn't work out for you. However, even if it had worked out there, you probably wouldn't have got on very well anyway if you were able to have these contact problems.

Could you ask a friend and YM from your current yard if you could use some of their pasture until you find another place to go? Obviously you would have to pay extra etc, but the horses would know each other after being on the same yard, and hopefully friends/ other people on current yard might be willing to give up a bit of land each to house your horses until you are sorted. Just a temporary measure, but better than no place at all to go
Good luck
 
Oh what a pain. Hope that you find something suitable soon or your current YO will let you have a corner of the field or something. As others have said, best to find out they're flaky now!

What area are you? Perhaps someone can help..
 
As everyone else has said, it's a pain in the rear but at least you have found out that these people are useless before you moved your horses to their yard!
 
Aw thanks for your kind words - yes you are all right in that maybe we've had a narrow escape and in reality they have done us a favour by revealing their true colours now and not when we'd moved. Staying at the current place would be lovely though sadly is not an option - most horses have individual turnout paddocks so there just won't be room once the new inmates move in as the yard is full currently. We're in Wilmslow near to Manchester Airport - there seems to be millions of horses around here but not many livery spaces.

Hey ho these things are sent to try us aren't they and I firmly believe everything happens for a reason - well that's what I keep telling myself anyway to stop me from having a complete meltdown. I'm just crossing everything for the yard tonight or the boys will be making themselves at home in my garden! Will keep you all posted and thanks again!
 
Stables are indeed at a premium around north Cheshire and South Manchester -too many horses, not enough grazing. And definitely some right odd YOs! How about a short dose of grass livery while you get something sorted out? Everyone in the area always used to go to Jacksons at Ashley - you can see the fields on either side of the M56 between jn 6 and 7, bordering the Bollin. It might be worth a try.
 
Probably to far away, but have you tried Mr Kinsey at Tetton Hall, Tetton Hall Lane, Middlewich, It is were the Tetton Hall event used to be held. Not sure of Tel number, but sure it will be in book. Lovely quiet farmyard.
 
Hi all - well I am so pleased to be able to report that the yard we saw tonight was great! Nice people, large airy stables with tackrooms, 2 lovely arenas, 24hr turnout for 9 months of the year...I could go on all night!! Needless to say I'm so relieved now and can hopefully get a decent night's sleep tonight!! It seems sometimes that cloud does have a silver lining and madam at the other place may well have done us a huge favour. Thanks to all of you who replied and your support xx
 
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