Tips for getting planning for stables and advice on gas pipe!

[Marv99]

Hi,

Not sure if New Lounge is the best place to put this but it didn't seem to fit anywhere else!

I'm hoping to soon be the proud owner of a 5 acre field which I plan to build three stables on. Does anyone have any tips on what I should be putting when I put together the planning application? My mum is helping as she has done some before although these were mainly barns and agricultural buildings.

Also the field does has a gas pipe running through the middle of it. I think we should be ok as we will be building the stables alongside the boundary but does anyone know how close you can build to a gas pipe? I think it is quite a big one.

Thanks

 

[pottamus]

The searches you have done on the land in the purchase process will show you where the gas pipe runs but you may need to get the gas board in for some advice on building near it...or at the least consult with them and document in the planning applications that you have done so...to appease the planners.
I would go through past online applications for similar builds in your area and take a note of how they have covered everything, get proper to scale drawings done, consult any nearby neighbours (better to have them on board initially) and also go to your planning office and look at the objections raised for similar buildings in your area - neighbours will have complained because they always do, but if you can cover any likely onjections in your application beforehand it will make things easier and less stressful for you.
The rest is standard stuff - removal of muck, spoiling views, type of materials used, water drainage, smell, noise, flies, access etc etc - all available from your local council and previous applications.

 

[OWLIE185]

Has the field previously had formal planning permission for 'Equestrian Use' if not then you will have to apply for this as well as the stables? As regards the gas pipe the planning department will have to formally approach the agency/company and get their approval and required specifications. This may delay matters as they can take a long time to respond.
Planning departments have over the last 20 years become quite strict about the conditions that they demand about equestrian properties as so many of them have rapidly become scrub land/junk heaps in the past. They will put on various conditions such a limiting the number of horses, regular disposal of muck and also the type of fencing that must be used.
The best way to ensure success of your planning application is to instruct a local survey to do it for you as he speaks the same language as the planning officers and will also know them so can have an informal chat with them prior to putting in the planning application. The last thing you want to happen is for them to refuse it and you having to go to appeal to the planning department as this will drag out the procedure and cause additional expense.

 

[Honey08]

Comments above are good.

We had a lot of probs with our planners. I would say apply for one more than you want - ours like to say no to the initial plans and then "compromise" by agreeing to a smaller scale yard.. We initially wanted six stables and a tack room, and were only allowed four. We have later added two portables that have been there three years so far without them noticing. Other people in the valley have put up stables without any permission or the dept even noticing!!

Issues they brought up - they don't want roads making to the stables, so put it somewhere where there won't need to be much done for access.. The gas pipe may actually help you as there must be access to that for the gas board I presume..

Our local stable builder says that the council is now clamping down on siting of muck heaps and drains etc, which didn't have to be included in plans five years ago when we built ours. It may be worth talking to a local stable builder if there is one - they deal with people with stable planning applications day in day out, and will know what people struggled with..

Good luck.