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Should I or shouldn't I sell my Cavalier eventer?

He's 13 this year, low mileage quirky but talented!
I love riding him, I get a great buzz XC but I haven't got an arena or the time to put into him...
He needs schooling and regular work, he does go really well when schooled regularly just gets a bit wild when only hacked out!!
I got given him 3 years ago and he is the sort of horse I'd never be able to afford to buy but I just feel I am wasting him...
We've done up to novice BE together and he is already qualified to go intermediate but I know I haven't got the guts to go that far, even the novices we have done I feel like I am his achilles heel... I am too nervous to let him go XC to make the time, although he can easily.. and also I am so bad at SJ I seem to hang onto him too long so he fights me and get it all wrong and end up with fences down!!!!

I looked into the possibility of sending him to someone else to ride but I just can't afford it... also if I sold him I might be able to afford that arena so we have got better facilities for our youngsters to be brought on..... OH what to do??

How much would he be worth?
17HH by Cavalier, (Half brother to Call again cavalier, Cashel Bay and Imperial Cavalier) Rising 13 but low mileage done up to BE Nov but ... no points though, fab paces, huge scopy jump, looks the part, has been described in the past as a pro's horse!! has got a few lumps and bumps but nothing of any veterinary significance... Just cosmetic!!

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Ohhh, me me me!!
I would love to have a horse like him, sounds like a great horse. Perhaps £10-15k, maybe I'm way off ?!! But if he has the ability to go intermediate then i would pay that.
What a shame, is there nowhere at all for you to be able to practice and get your confidence up a bit, i've done a few xc clinics just to get my technique xc and sj right and find those always help.
You must be doing something right anyway to have such a talented horse.
Personally i'd try and hang onto him and work on your achilles heel, but if needs must and you want to concentrate on your other youngsters and just do not have time for him then maybe it is fair to sell him to a good home where somebody could fufill his potential.
 
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Sounds like the type of horse that would suit Guildford

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Wouldn't recommend hunting or TC'ing him... been there done that... my arms look about a foot longer!!!
Did intermediate TC in 2006 took the 1st fence at flat out gallop 2 strides early, then took a circuit of a huge field to get control again... maybe a bitting error on my part
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.... I was determined not to let him get away with it so did take him round full course but had to trot between fences to keep control.... jumped everything but only let him go about 4 strides in front of each fence, then had to pull up after each fence so he didn't get away from me again.. But my god I didn't realise how big intermediate TC fences were... a lot had 6' drops behind 4' fences!!
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Did feel awsome as he hopped over as if they were 2'6 but vowed never to go again as I fancy being in 1 piece for a while yet!!
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Fair enough.

You'd never be able to agree on a price either........

Send him to Nick Gauntlett. He'll get him round intermediate for you and add another 12k to his price at the same time.......
 
I would love a horse like this - give him me lol. I have the time and facilites just not the money to purchase something as classy as this and am desperate to do more eventing as my mare only SJ's!
 
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Sounds like the type of horse that would suit Guildford

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Wouldn't recommend hunting or TC'ing him... been there done that... my arms look about a foot longer!!!
Did intermediate TC in 2006 took the 1st fence at flat out gallop 2 strides early, then took a circuit of a huge field to get control again... maybe a bitting error on my part
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.... I was determined not to let him get away with it so did take him round full course but had to trot between fences to keep control.... jumped everything but only let him go about 4 strides in front of each fence, then had to pull up after each fence so he didn't get away from me again.. But my god I didn't realise how big intermediate TC fences were... a lot had 6' drops behind 4' fences!!
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Did feel awsome as he hopped over as if they were 2'6 but vowed never to go again as I fancy being in 1 piece for a while yet!!
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Hes a Cavalier, remember they do things their own way!! How good is he in the dressage arena?
 
Sounds as though you do want to sell him. It will be difficult to put a price on him as he has no points.

I recommend using a yard and rider to sell him for you, you may well make a lot, but they take some of course. When I sold one they took £100 per week plus 10% nice rider I can recomend her, she events. Near Kettering, Northants if you are near that way!

Trouble is nothing is shifting at the mo.
 
Wow, I suspect that you'll be able to sell him really well as an eventer. Or, if you really do want to keep this horse for yourself, keep him as your horse and get someone to event him for you- there Plenty of up and coming riders out there who would take him out and compete him for nothing. Especially a horse of that quality. So if you want to keep him, put an advert in h&h for a good rider in the yorkshire area and you'd be inudated with calls. Or if you want to sell him, get the right sort of money for him, do not waste your investment by selling him off your yard,send him to a pro event rider for 3 months - probably someone like Piggy French would be able to take him round a few novices now and then an intermediate in about two months time, then he could be put up for sale and youd get good money.
 
I had a Cavalier horse, sounds just like yours, he was brilliant but had no fear (although very spooky when hacking) never seemed to run out of steam and if I lunged him one day - I might as well have given him the day off, he didn't seem to have noticed that he had worked the day before. The horse I had before him was even more talented and prob could have gone advanced with a better rider we went intermediate and he had no idea that he could have done more - he loved every time he went into the lorry whether it was for 2'6" (when he was elderly and semi retired) or for bigger stuff. When we first had him he scared the daylights out of me as he was just sooo fast and bold. I booked myself on a couple of training courses (2 lots of 3 days with Steven Hadley) and the same with Polly Lyon. We made some major break throughs with them and jumping twice per day every day got him thinking it wasn't exciting and me the confidence that I could jump some huge fences and grids in either huge arenas and fields and have control at the end of it. I hated dressage and didn't have an arena so I worked lots of extra shifts and had a dressage lesson every week for a season and had to cope with practising out hacking and a jump lesson once a fortnight. At the end of our first year we did very well and I stopped being sick with fear (I had come off the x-c a couple of times with my hands bleeding he had yanked me so hard). Could you not sell a couple of the youngsters to pay for an arena as you won't get one for £9k for selling him. We have a guy near us that sold a mare for me (she had grown far too big for me and was rather stroppy) his name is Andrew Hazeltine and a realy nice firm rider. My mare was an angel for him (sickening), he did a fab job of selling her but will compete for people as well (upto BE Advanced) her flatwork was so good after 2 weeks we almost took her home. Personally I dont think you should sell him, but find a way to put some concentrated schooling into him - you will probalby never get the chance to sit on such a good horse again.
 
Hi, Sorry to go off on a tangent but we tend to save the term half brother of half sister for those that are out of the same dam and not just by the same stallion.

He seems like a nice type but if it just a case of you feel you are wasting him then I don't think you should feel that you have to sell him. As I'm sure you know It could be a long search to replace him with something of the same quality! If you are enjoying each other then that is a perfect reason to stay together.

If you do want to sell, in order to realise the best price, I think you'd need to sell him through a pro and perhaps get a few events done.
 
i'd love to have him to play with for a few events, or half a season, or a season.
PM me if you like! i've produced them from foal to 2*, and baby to 3*. had a few seasons off tho, not a 'name' or anything unfortunately!
i can absorb most of costs if you'd do registrations and entries, and maybe diesel if i wasn't going anyway, if i'm going anyway with my mare then travel would be free. let me know if interested.
i have decent facilities here and might be able to sell him for you, but i'm a bit of a way out and i guess some people wouldn't travel this far. maybe food for thought though...
 

I'd definitely recommend selling him.... TO ME!!!

He looks and sounds like my kinda horse... but prob couldn't afford him at the mo tbh
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if you ever want a rider for him though...

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