Tongue over bit?

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Daisy goes best in a french link pelham and two reins. She's not strong in the slightest, we only tried her in it to practice for a showing class but it was like something clicked in her head. She became really soft and responsive, brought her bottom in underneath her and worked beautifully.

Our only problem now is that when she's bored or feels she's due a break she will put her tongue ove the bit because she knows that I'll stop to sort it out.

She doesn't do it in any other bit but then she doesn't go as well. For normal riding and dressage she goes in a hanging check but she still fights this a little as she would much rather trot round like a curious giraffe.

Any tips? I'd rather not change her noseband as she'll have to be in it for showing anyway and I'm not overly keen on strapping their mouth shut.
 
NS Intermediere/Schooling Bit, just to use at home while you are schooling? or something that offer more room for the tongue?

If you are sure is not a discomfort thing with 9/10 it is, then I'd use a flash for schooling at home just in case it does develop into a cheeky habit of knowing that when the tongue goes over you stop and get off, they can be clever little so and so's some horses ,you may only need to use it for few weeks until the habit goes away and you don't have to 'strap the mouth shut' or tight, no flash in my opinion should be used in that way anyway.
 
I had a problem with my previous horse in that he was always pulling his tongue over the bit or sticking it out of the side of his mouth so it would flap about as he was ridden! In his case it was a well rehearsed and practiced evasion and it turned out that the horse had late onset wobblers for which he was eventually put down. In theory it could have been just a habit he'd acquired but I would always consider it an evasion for a reason, i.e pain.

My current horse is a dutch warmblood and he tends to go much better in a pelham with a port as dutch horses are reknown for having thick tongues, so it gives his tongue a little extra room. I use the pelham for show jumping, pleasure rides, x.c and hacking. The other times he is in a half moon lonzenge full cheek snaffle. The one thing that many, many people omit when using a pelham is a lip strap. This keeps the curb chain in place against the chin groove where it is meant to lie. It could be that the constant banging on the chain irritates her which causes her to keep sticking her tongue out, or it could be an evasion due to pain somewhere in her hocks/back as you are obviously making her rounder in her shape by using the pelham.

If the pelham is the only bit she does this in and she does'nt do it whilst lunging (without any gadgets designed to bring her hocks under her) then I would suggest this is the reason why.
 
I have this exact same problem with my highland...who has a fat tongue...I use a hanging cheek too- after trying loads of others and this has been the best so far.

Basically...I have been advised to ensure the hanging cheek is actually high enough in his mouth.

Failing that...to try a Myler ported comfort snaffle ( better get a loan) as it gives more room for the tongue.
 
I had an instructor once who very surprisingly put my horse's bit down lower when he put his tongue over. She explained that it made it much easier for him to put it back again by himself. It worked! He stopped putting his tongue over at all when he realised that he could try it and then just put it back. Worth a try maybe.
 
My pony does that too but she's just being stubborn. My instructor put a tongue grid on her bridle, it's like an extra bit that points higher up her mouth, and it seems to do the trick.
 
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