Totally fed up, is emigration the answer?

Rosehip

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Im afraid this is going to be a totally self-pitying thread, so get comfy with a cupa and some choc!

My Fell mare, Melly, wass diagnosed with bone spavin of her right hind in sept 09, and was subsequently medicated with hock injections, tildren, danilon, weightloss programme and work routine, the vet was 'thrilled' when she was still 2/10 lame RH after this lot, and so when she went lame on her LH I decided (after talking over with a different vet at the same practice) just to danilon and 24 turn out. Her LH is now 1 or 2/10 lame when its very wet or cold, her RH is never better than 2/10 lame and she is currently 4/10 ish on that leg.
During the summer we gave up the big ascot barn that we used as a lambing shed and storage as well as having 2 make-do-and-mend stables in it, and planned to get a field shelter for the girls for the winter, and would also foal my Welsh SHP mare, Seren, in there in the summer.
There have been problems with the land/farm owner which are now (please God) resolved, and a shelter was ordered, made to my spec, to arrive in 3 weeks....
This was 6 weeks ago, with no communication from the shelter provider, despite repeated calls and emails. We managed to get hold of the chap last week, and the shelter was promised for tomorrow/friday, with a call on Sunday (14th) to confirm all details.
Needless to say, the call never came, and we have been calling and calling with no joy since then. Dad managed to speak to the chap last night, and said to him that if the shelter wasnt available tomorrow, then we would cancel the order...the shelter provider simply said 'ok' and put the phone down. So now I am left with a crippled mare, a cold broodmare, a field full of mud and no shelter.

My partner and I went to a nearby shed building company today to enquire if they made shelters, or could recommend someone who did, they were very helpful, drew out a plan of what I wanted, and said that the boss - who was out on delivery when we were there - would call me this afternoon to let me know a price and to get all my details if the price was right...I havent had a call, and as it's now 5.10pm I doubt I'll get one, although I guess that doesnt mean they wont call tomorrow.

Im working 7 days at the moment, as my boss has had a big op and cant work, so havent stopped for the last 2.5 months, so with a yard of 8 on full livery (inc 2 on box rest), the menages to dig, fields to skip and one of the horses to exercise, then mine to look after and poo pick etc, Im exhausted, my ME, depression and IBS are raging, and I spent last night hugging the loo - presumably something I ate - so feeling even more wretched today.

My boss has offered me DIY livery for Melly, but cant take Seren aswel, so that isnt an option, although it would be lovely to have her there with me. I also have the option of taking them both to a friends yard on DIY, and she would put them out for me in the mornings for a nominal cost, however its twice the distance from my house, and would almost double my outgoings without factoring in bedding and diesel. Also, my friend is pregnant, due Feb/March and wont want to be faffing with more horses than she has to, and my family are dead against me going onto a yard, having never been anywhere except with the sheep and paying a 'grass-keep' rent to the field owner.

Ive been calling and emailing shelter suppliers this afternoon, and have been quoted 3k and 3.5k for shelters, which is way over my 2k budget, Im really not sure where Im going from here or what I am going to do. Im so worried about Melly, she is lame, cold and unhappy, wearing a MW combo and a 180g standard neck and still cold, Seren is ok, just warm enough tonight, but is getting heavy and really needs somewhere warm and dry to sleep. There is no natural shelter in the field, and the land owner wont allow a makeshift structure to go up until we sort something out as it wouldnt be tidy enough.

Thanks for listening, and thanks for any replies, cookies for all who arent glazed over from my moaning!
 
um.. put a heavier rug on her... There are heavy weights out there.
However she sounds so lame and miserable I'd be calling the hunt out given the situatuion-what are you keeping her alive for?
 
The only thing that comes to mind is Sheds and stables direct - google them, they were pretty cheap for their shelters and delivered in about 3 days. It takes longer if you want them to put it up for you, but TBH it is easy, all you need is 2 strong men for a day.
 
However she sounds so lame and miserable I'd be calling the hunt out given the situatuion-what are you keeping her alive for?

Crikey! I wouldn't go that far just yet! And it's not a particularly helpful or kind thing to say when someone is having problems. :mad:

We've got a pony with a bone spavin who lives out during the winter, but we are able to leave the stable door open for him so he can go in if he chooses. Let's just hope they hurry up with that field shelter!!
 
I would. The horse is lame, permanently so, or expected to be permanently so if I read correctly, on two legs and miserable. What is it being kept alive for? Unless it is going to come sound which I read the OP as it would not.
 
I think the moan was about the misery of winter and trials and tribulations of getting a field shelter, not asking for advice what to do with a lame horse... but, don't mind me, just get the OP even more upset:rolleyes:
 
I would put your horse on a daily measure of Linseed as it is a very good anti-inflamatory. You can buy it in powdered form from feed merchants in large plastic bags or tubs.
 
I totally agree with PTS- what is the point in keeping and paying for a lame horse when its making you unwell too and has no hope of recovery?
For God's sake cut the numbers and give yourself a break to get better. Your health is more important than any horse.
Double rug the broad mare and ensure a whole big bale of hay / straw is in the field for her- she can eat the hay while using the straw bale as a windbreak.
 
Build your own? My o/h is the world's worst at DIY but he built a big solid shelter for our lot for about 60% the price of buying one.

He used those large metal feet to sink the corner posts into the ground - that was the most difficult bit. It is lined with stockboard and although we used corrigated roofing which was heavy to lift on - there is a new lighter material available now. Just make sure you have heavy duty bolts to bolt it on.

You should be able to get the frame and sides up in a weekend.
 
we used a company called horse a home .see them on the internet price is reasonable and they were brilliant or find a local diy man to knock up a field shelter if possible .we had a man in the village build one .not pretty but does the job. hopefully once it dries up she will cope better its the wet and cold they hate .can you put lots of lighter layers to keep her warm and big bale hay . sorry to hear youre struggling and im amazed and shocked at peoples response to put down especially in such an unnecasarily harsh way.if the majority of the time she is comfortable and this situation can be resolved just grit your teeth for a few more weeks as it will get easier once you can get them in and dry.
 
To those of you who have given advice, thank you very much. Martlin I will certainly be googling sheds and stabling direct, sounds a good plan of action, Owlie185, I hadnt thought of linseed powder, she is having Mobile Mover (which is like a powder form of no bute) and glucosamine, and has danilon when she is stiff like she is at the moment, but I will try anything!
To the 2 posters who said to put my Melly to sleep, you have no idea of my situation other than what I have told you, you dont know how lame/miserable etc she is...currently she is STIFF to 5/10 on her RH and STIFF to 2/10 on her LH, if eitherr of you had the knowledge of bone spavin you would realise that she is arthritic and creaky, not 'on 2 legs'. How dare you tell me to get the hunt in, Melly is my everything, she is 11 and very very happy and healthy for 11 1/2 months of the year, and is going through a bad patch at the moment due to the lack of shelter, no because she is a knacker.
Vile, cruel people.
Rollin, thanks for advice, unfortunately the land owner wont allow anything that isnt made by a company, she is very picky!!
 
Thanks debsflo, Ive dug her thicker high neck out and a nice snug fleece, so she can be layered up tomorrow, I never dreamed that she would be cold in 2 medium weights!
Luckily they have plenty of grazing, so she has lots to chew at, she just hates being cold, poor pony x
 
5/10 lame is vastly more than 'stiff'. 2/10 is probably on the verge of acceptable.
As I said-I read in your OP as it was a permanent condition, if no then of course not time tro PTS, but maybe I've pricked a nerve. If she's going to recover, great. Otherwise it is cruel to keep a 5/10(even if it is only every couple of days..) lame horse going.
i woul rather be 'evil' for putting a horse out of its misery if its going to be prolonged, than 'kind' for keeping it going for my own emotions. I think you are far crueler than me dear, unless of course you are talking about a 1/10 lameness when you say 5/10..
'Arthritic and creaky' is a very pc way to put things, to make it seem better than in pain..
If you can manage that pain great, keep her going, no problems. If not...
 
...Yes emigration is the answer. If you can afford it, go go go :D I am as soon as I have the funds.
I don't really have any advice for your mare :/ it's a tough situation to be in.
I'm not saying you should do it, afterall you know your mare more than anyone here but if I'd have stressed every option then I'd be looking at my first option which is full retirement (hot country, less stiffness, emigration to nice hot place :D) and if things got worse then consider pts.
It's a huge thing to just have a horse pts, unfortunately, you get the few people who're a bit trigger happy when it comes to lame horses :rolleyes: but that's what I would set myself up for.

I'm not sure though. As I say it's a tough place to be with a horse :/
 
Glad I'm not an unwell relative of SusieT!!

HAHAHAHAHA!

Me too!

OP, only you know your horse, as some have said, get a thicker rug on, and see if you can't botch together some sort of shelter!

Life sends us these trials, although difficult at the time, be strong, it will make you a more rounded person at the end of it!

....but don't tell other posters to shoot their horses if they post they are lame.... ;)
 
Rosehip, are your two having any hay in the field? Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I did notice my lad (18yr, and ArabxWelsh) was dropping off weight, (out without a rug) and I have been worried as we moved this autumn, as this field has no-where near as much shelter as the one he was in last winter..... we started feeding hay in the field at night, and even in that horrible cold wet windy spell we had, he was warm as toast and has now PUT ON weight!!! Having something in the belly at night seemes to give him a little internal furnace.... grass alone, even with hard feed, wasn't enough to keep him warm...
(Again sorry if this is a granny/sucking eggs comment!!!)
Sorry can't help with the field shelter situation, but if you need an emergency carpenter, give me a shout as I could check if my OH has some time... he keep promising me a weekend away in the Peak DIstrict :p
 
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