Traditional Showing Show update - starting 18th April. Please read.

[Sparkles]

Hi all, just to start spreading the word out in advance as have had a lot of progress [rather rapidly sobeit!] with the Traditional Cob Society. Hoping to have upcoming editorial coverage in HHO and other magazines too

The first confirmed shows will be run by Great Chart Showing Society in Kent.
This is for affiliated members of the Traditional Cob Society and dates are:
18th April, 3rd May and 23rd May.
There is also one for novices and unaffiliated on the 19th June at Tunbridge Wells.

Shows are also being held at Liverpool Equestrian Centre [Dates TBC, watch this space!].

For more information regarding the classes and sections being held, please email us [Traditional Cob Society] or Great Chart Show.

Due to this being so rushed and hurried due to pressing season, some classes will be merged so please contact us for scheduling!

This shall be qualifiers for the end of year championships held at Addington Manor, October time.

You do not have to be a member to enter these clases for the time being but if you qualify for the National Champs, you have 3 working days for you and your horse to become elidgable.

This is open to ALL horses and ponies of Traditional Gypsy Cob type.

Many more shows coming on board every day, so please keep checking the website for updates!

Many thanks and spread the word.



http://www.greatchartshowingsociety.co.uk/
http://www.traditionalcobsociety.co.uk/

 

[zoeshiloh]

Urrrm just looked at your website, and so it looks like you are only catering for ridden horses/ponies - what about youngstock/veterans in hand? Just a thought, you might increase membership/support - I see it says "if enough interest" but I'd of thought you'd have more interest in hand classes to be honest.

 

[cloptonpartridge]

Cool will have to start twisting arms for transport

 

[zoeshiloh]

I think this is a fab idea (having just acquired a trad) but I've just looked at the membership forms, and it would cost me £90 a year to be a member! I am currently a member of SHB(GB) and that only costs me £50 with a one off registration fee of £25 for each horse. It seems a little steep tbh.

 

[rushyj]

Hi yes there are in hand classes in the above named shows. The membership fees are consistant with other showing societies who offer type showing classes and qualifiers.

SHB (GB) for example to show in their affiliated qualifiers you would have to have the following:

Full membership £50 (each for both owner and rider if applicable) yearly

Horse SHB (GB) Passport £25 for basic OR Horse overstamp service £25.00 (one off payments)

Show Hunter Registration £45 yearly..

So to be registered and elidgeable to compete in SHB (GB) affiliated qualifying classes would cost you £120 first year then £95 yearly. We will be doing non showing memberships also but the £90 is for both horse and rider.

 

[zoeshiloh]

I think perhaps once up and running with lots of qualifiers etc £90 wouldn't seem so steep, and as you say, compared to other ridden showing memberships, it is on a par - however, SHB have lots of qualifiers, as well as their own big show and classes at HOYS. Also, to show in hand only costs £50 per year (membership) as the horses only need to be registered/overstamped with them.

 

[rushyj]

Sorry forgot to mention that bit... the horse membership that is up is only for the ridden horses. In hand and youngstock is only £10 for the overstamp sorry for confusion my head is in the shed. lol

We have got talks with HOYS and Olympia to see if they will hold a final for us which would be amazing!!! The RIHS are rammed for the forseeable but if we can prove enough interest it may change.

 

[zoeshiloh]

Ah, ok, that seems better

 

[Theresa_F]

Put me up for this next year - I am having to keep myself to the three championships this year. Chemo has really meant my energy is low, so I just can't attempt this as well.

You might want to review your height sizes.

In other societies the small traditional pony is up to 138, the traditional cobs are 138 up to 148 (CHAPS/HOYS) or 153 (BSPA/RIHS) and the traditional horse is 153 plus. Anything over 158 is a drum horse/large vanner and these are few and far between.

Just a thought and not a criticism.

I say this as you may get more members by doing this. For example, my chap is classed as a traditional horse as he is over 153 and I do not need a height certificate for any classes I currently do with him. I would have to go out and get a height certificiate which whilst is not the end of the world, is another expense on top of membership.

Finally - no hogged traditionals - there are a lot of "traditionals" being shown in the large native/traditional/cob classes now which are coloured show cobs - really annoys me as they are far different to a proper traditional and should not be in the class, but judges don't seem to tell the difference between a native, a gypsy cob and a show cob.

 

[teagreen]

Do excuse what are probably numpty questions/thoughts!

Are coloured horses allowed? Or is it purely for solid coloured horses that have full mane/tail and feather?

Who will be judging these classes? Do you have a panel of judges from the society?

It has been quite a struggle to get LR SHP and Maxi Cobs (which are not yet confirmed) at HOYS as it is absolutely choc full, so I'm not sure how successful you'll be with that, but maybe HOYS will prove me wrong. I'm a bit confused about the exact type of horse that will, for example, win in the under 148cm class, so I shall be very interested to see the winners from your first few shows!

 

[rushyj]

Hi all relevant questions and comments... the sizes have been very tricky to work out and I fully take your point regarding the JMB certs. The problem we have is we have to stay true to the type. Gypsy cob enthusiasts will not endorse an Irish cob or Drum horse etc and vice versa so we are treading a very fine line in wording and sizes etc.

Also on the size issue because the Gypsy cob goes from 13h we have to do idividual shows as opposed to ride judge as it has to be consistant through the ridden classes.

To clarify the type that can be shown all colours are acceptable as per the breed standard. Gypsy Cobs are solid colours, coloured horses and ponies and even spotted rarely so there will be NO restriction on colours. It may be the case if the demand is there that coloured horses may be split from solids then an overall championship but this is still to be decided.

The horses are to be shown in a completely natural state with full mane, tail and feather. The main rule of thumb is the more hair the better the tail ideally would be to the floor same as the feathers. No hogged horses or plaiting is allowed. As this is a new section we do appreciate that some people will have horses that may have had a shorter mane in the past and it is being grown out for example but as with all showing the placing will reflect this at the judges descretion.

There are huge differences between a true show cob and a true gypsy cob. The Gypsy Cob will have a small dainty head where a show Cob will have a noble horse head and the differences run all the way through.

It will be a huge learning curve for all of us and any suggestions or comments are warmly welcomed. also if you have a show local to you that you think may be interested in running qualifiers please let us or them know.

 

[rushyj]

Forgot to say about Judges.. We are drawing judges from the breed and also we have some judges who are currently judging hunters, cobs and coloureds at HOYS level. We want judges from across the board as the experience of the breeders plus the judging experience from the current UK county show circuit will compliment each other.

We are currently organising a judging seminar day with Mr Paul Cook who is a very well respected and known judge for CHAPS, SHB (GB) etc. who will be helping our new judges and assessing etc. We are also taking nominations for judges ATM

 

[Keltic]

Thats fab news, you have sorted it soo quick too well done!! You need to get this out to as many folks as possible why not try HorseGossip and saddle soap both good forums with lots of show people in.

 

[BRIMY]

12 months on...hows things going?

any results/feedback from the shows/,members etc

very interrested x x x x

 

[Theresa_F]

I do agree it can be a bit of a nightmare as they go from 12.2 to 16 hands and the small 13.2 - 14.2 "square", huge amount of bone, tiny head and tonnes of hair is different to my type who is 15.1, lighter build, longer bodied and legged, and lighter in hair but still a bred in the purple gypsy cob.

I hope you can find judges who really do know the breed, ie that they are not natives, they don't move like natives etc and ditto they are not show cobs by any measure. If you PM me, I can give you names of people who really do know what a good gypsy cob is, some are judges and others are breeders and you could contact them as I am sure they would be interested in this.

I will be up for this next year, cancer will be gone and my life will be getting back to normal. I will have to get him measured which for me is a pain, and as said, may put some folks off joining as it is another expense.

Paul Cook is great - put my lad first in the traditional horse championship at BSPA last year and was very surprised at the ride - he was not expecting such a response to the leg, but as he said as Stinky shot off, the brakes are excellent. He gave him a lovely ride and also gave him a lot of tips to get the best out of him.

 

[cloptonpartridge]

Are you planning any shows in East Anglia at all?

 

[rushyj]

Hello yes they will be UK wide we are constantly aquiring new shows for this season. Please PM me any local shows who hold qualifiers that may be inteerested in holding classes.